The Dungeon of Apolyton

[DrSpike]

Keep it open........people are inevitably going to want to make comments/suggestions.

[Drogue]

Now all I need is NWN and I can play

[Enigma_Nova]

Re: The Dungeon of Apolyton

Cut me in for a piece of the action.
Where can I talk to you about the idea for an Enigma character?

I don't know if you can do custom artistry, but waistlength red hair would be nice (Makes me look like myself in RL)

I will carry 2 enigma-related items:
The Orb of Introspection
(Big +es to Wisdom and Intelligence)
The battle axe of Egotism
(Great -s to charisma, but a very strong weapon designed to kill everyone that opposes the bearer)

When the player encounters me hiding after a loss to tass (presuming the player hasn't killed me on an earlier level), I will be depressed, basically admitting that I can't defeat my enemies, asserting that I am worthless and crying a lot.
To fix this, the player will have to find the items:
Wrist Swords of acceptance
Armor of friendship
Bucklers of understanding
And give them to me.
With these items, I will stop being a lone wolf, and help the player. I will leave my battle axe of Egotism behind.

I will eventually run off, saying "I sense the source of all this stupidity." Only to be found dead before the final level boss.

[Enigma_Nova]

Okay, I've read the first 3 pages.
Here's my idea for the story of Enigma:

Enigma is a hot-headed warrior, a loose cannon who has much to learn.
He has a desire for knowledge, a lust for power, and an innate resentment of being influenced by anyone.

I'd cast myself as some type of fighter-mage or psychic-fighter.
I don't have NWN, so I'll go on the 6-stat rule, with average being ten.
If the averages for a human are:
STRENGTH: 10 INTELLIGENCE: 10 DEXTERITY: 10
WISDOM: 10 CHARISMA: 10 CONSTITUTION: 10
Then Enigma's stats would be:
STRENGTH: 8 INTELLIGENCE: 16 DEX: 16
WISDOM: 12 CHARISMA: 8 CONSTITUTION: 4

But note that I wear the +8 INT +4 WIS orb of introspection and the -8 CHARISMA +8 STR axe of egotism at the beginning of the game.
Tht puts me on:
STR 16 INT 24 DEX 16 WIS 16 CHAR 0 CON 4

You first meet me at the start of level 1.
You might say 'meet', because I am quite terse at that stage.
When you see me, I say:
"I am Enigma, Guardian of intellect. I will destroy all my foes and crush this stupid world. Let the gates of wisdom be opened!"
If you get near me, I will say:
"I do not need your help, nor do I want your burden. Go away."
If you attack me, I will laugh and say:
"Fool! You spawn of stupidity have no chance against my superior intellect!"
I will automatically run away from the player, and move faster than you can catch me.

You see me again at the start of level 2.
This time, I am calculating my chances, having been injured slightly by a fight.
When you see me, I say:
"Hmmm... These enemies are tougher than expected. Regardless, I believe I have an excellent chance of victory."
Approach me, I say:
"You Average don't look like you have much chance. Leave it to me, I am much better suited to defeat these enemies."
If you attack me:
"You have made a great and unwise error. I will teach you your foolishness."
I will automatically run away from the player, and move faster than you can catch me.

You again meet me in level 3.
I'm a bit skeptical now, being moderately injured.
I say on sight:
"The enemy are quite strong. We need a person strong in mind, body and spirit to defeat them."
I say on approach:
"You had best stay behind. This is my fight, my mission. I do not want you to risk your life for it.
If you attack:
"Why are you all against me? What is so bad about my quest for intellect? No matter - I will destroy you. I must follow my goals."
Same running details.

After you defeat Tass, you find me somewhat less Enigmatic.
Cowering, no longer injured but broken in spirit.
I am quite depressed, and mention self-destruction.
You have 3 options:
1. Leave me there alone.
2. Kill me (I will offer no resisitance).
3. Find the 3 magic items as listed above.
(Might want to hide them in level 4)

If you leave me alone, and get to level 5, I will have found the items of my own volition.
If you get me the items, I will vow to help you, engaging enemies with you.

In any case, once the depression ends (either by killing me or by me finding the items) I will cast off a shadow, which will form itself into a 'dark enigma'.
This dark spirit wants to make its way to the Apolyton town centre. It will rise up through the levels (It's a ghost)

What happens to the Dark Enigma depends on what happened to me.
If you saved me by getting those items, I will be defending Skanky's Grill and Bar, waiting for you to double-team the Dark Enigma.
If I found the items of my own volition, I will have already killed the Dark Enigma and be sitting in the Rec Commons chatting with people.
If you killed me, The Dark Enigma sacks the Grill and Bar, and is stopped by HongHu's sword of trust.

...more...

[DrSpike]

I hope after all that Jamski doesn't say there isn't room in the game.

[Enigma_Nova]

Those items again:

The Orb of Introspection
The battle axe of Egotism
Wrist Swords of acceptance
Armor of friendship
Bucklers of understanding

You have to kill me to get the orb. By default, I run away when I am betrayed, so your only real shot at it is killing me after the Tass fight.
Or waiting until I take on something a -bit- too strong and die.

I would probably have hatred towards any chars with a base intelligence less than 8.
No doubt you'll place some 'stereotypically stupid' people around, I'll try to pick fights with them.

If you take some of the items with you to level 5, I will politely ask for them. Then fight you for them. Then lose.
The idea is to avoid a duplicate item thingy...
The items are as follows:
Wrist Swords of acceptance: +4 Dex +4 Charisma
Armor of Friendship: +8 Charisma +4 Con
Bucklers of Understanding: +4 Wis +4 Str

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If you let me save myself, I will not be seen for a while.
This is because I am trying to recover the Grapefruit of Love for HongHu (who was very supportive in all this).
If the player saves me, I will ask if the player is interested in the grapefruit quest, but if not I'll still follow the player around, generally killing things.

Since it is my quest to save the world from stupidity, I will run off and attack an end boss, getting my ass whooped in the process. (Be sure to give my stuff to someone who needs it)

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Here are some Characters I can interact with:
(Interact with... kill... whatever)
The Visiting Fundies.
The Drunken OT Posters.
The Strict Parents Coalition.
(Remember - Children have a right to free thought too)
'poly posters who don't approve of introspection / being lost in thought.
Eventually I want to lose a battle to GeneralTacticus if nothing had killed me before that point.

I don't know how making alternative levels, but perhaps (from beyond the grave) I can open a window to the universe of my mind - "The Chaotic Enigma", and have the entrance to be through someone else's mind. (talk to them and you're teleported there)
Exactly what a place would contain, I am uncertain. You can make up what you think the world of my mind would contain.

...more...

[Enigma_Nova]

Originally posted by DrSpike
I hope after all that Jamski doesn't say there isn't room in the game.

I've given myself a legitimate chance.

But how many people are gonna just let me die so that Dark Enigma can beat the sh!t out of everyone in Skanky's bar and grill?

Here are a list of items, so I think I'll add my own take to this list:
Every item needs someone to use it, and while some items are funny, who will use them?

The Downto Earthen Staff
For use on posters that think the honourable, logically correct, efficient solution will actually be implemented!
Bring them back with the Earthen staff, to break their spirits and make them realise that they are truly subservient to insanity.

The Wand of Hyemynde
The counter to the Downto Earthen staff.
This imbues its holders with a sense of intelligence and wisdom, knowing that the current system is flawed and that something must be done.
Also demoralises the enemy, by making them aware of the hell they are confined to.

THE LIGHTNING POST
For rapidly moving from place to place and ALWAYS getting the first strike on your enemies!

Stone Deaf:
This shield enables the wearer to weather debating onslaughts from all sides and still maintain his integrity.

The shield of logic and reason:
An alternate faction to those of Stone Deaf. These people are protected by a magic shield of wisdom and truth, that boldly deflects the bluntest troll weapons, the hottest flames, the sharpest snipes and the most relentless posts.

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The Visiting Fundies.
The Drunken OT Posters.
The Strict Parents Coalition.

Anyone have any idea what these guys might carry?

Oh, and there's another idea:
Hegemericans
Legions of Brainwashed Teenagers

They may have their 'grand guardians of law, right, truth, force and justice' - grand leaders of these sects who are out to ensure that their minions remain mindless and obedient.

It is these great bastions that preserve stupidity that I must defeat, one by one. To bring down ALL the opponents of free thought.

[Jamski]

I could make a whole Enigma_Nova module with that lot.

I'm sorry to say that you are already in... but I won't say as who or what...
Perhaps in version 1.1 you'll get a bit more dialog, butat the moment Spiffor mentions you, Sheep mentions you, and well... someone who's found this optional book can tell you...



-Jam

[Enigma_Nova]

I hope I actually have power and do something.
I would hate to be a corpse somewhere or a weakling that gets owned.

BTW Dude, this is just the beginning. There's enough Enigma_Nova to make entire game - but I'll keep it brief to a renegade that relearns that not all things are enemies.

[Space05us]

someone tell me how annoying I am!!! pleeeeese. ( I mean in game ) I dont have NWN yet

[Jamski]

I hope I actually have power and do something.
I would hate to be a corpse somewhere or a weakling that gets owned.

You are the only NPC that regularly killed my TEST CHARACTER. If you're playing without my über-hacked immortal guy then anyone that meets you is in trouble. I normally lasted about 4 seconds vs Enigma_Nova.
Then I put an item in, in a hidden place with a tough guardian, that gives the player a chance.
Killing Enigma_Nova is needed for the optional good AND evil endings.

Space - you are REALLY annoying. You're a reason NOT to visit Apolyton Town.

GO! DOWNLOAD IT! ITS ONLY 1.68 megs, TAKES ABOUT 3 SECONDS on CABLE, A COUPLE OF MINUTES ON DIAL-UP. EVEN IF YOU CAN'T PLAY IT; DOWNLOAD IT; MAKE A GOOD COMMENT AND VOTE FOR IT WITH 10's IN ALL AREAS
please please please please please

-Jam

[Snowflake]

What do I need to play it?

[Edit] Never mind. I won't have time to play it anyway.

[Jamski]

What do I need to play it?

You need NWN and SOU.

Never mind. I won't have time to play it anyway.

But it only takes a couple of hours You'll download it anyway though, won't you?

-Jam

[Snowflake]

But they asked for my username and password! Why would I want to have a username there?

[Jamski]

Just to vote for me. I register just to vote for another person before.

PLEASE HONGHU PLEASE !

-Jam