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    'Ghettopoly' game causes outrage
    Thursday, October 9, 2003 Posted: 1:30 AM EDT (0530 GMT)

    The game has caused a furor in Pennsylvania, Illinois, and Florida.

    PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (AP) -- Cheap Trick Avenue instead of Boardwalk? Hernando's Chop Shop instead of Reading Railroad?

    Black leaders are outraged over a new board game called "Ghettopoly" that has "playas" acting like pimps and game cards reading, "You got yo whole neighborhood addicted to crack. Collect $50."

    Black clergymen say the game, the brainchild of a Pennsylvania man, should be banned, and have called for a boycott of Urban Outfitters unless the company stops selling Ghettopoly in its chain of clothing stores.

    Urban Outfitters has not publicly commented on the issue, and did not return a call seeking comment on Wednesday.

    "If we are silent on this issue there is more of this type to come," the Rev. Robert P. Shine Sr., president of the Black Clergy of Philadelphia & Vicinity, said at a sidewalk rally Wednesday in front Urban Outfitters' corporate headquarters in Philadelphia.

    Shine displayed the game board, with properties including Westside Liquor, Harlem, The Bronx, and Long Beach City, and squares labeled Smitty's XXX Peep Show, Weinstein's Gold and Platinum, and Tyron's Gun Shop.

    Players draw "Hustle" and "Ghetto Stash" cards with directions like, "You're a little short on loot, so you decided to stick up a bank. Collect $75," and "Steal $$$ if you pass Let$ Roll."

    The creator of Ghettopoly, David Chang, did not immediately answer e-mails or phone calls seeking comment about the game.

    On his Web site, Chang is unapologetic, and promises that more games -- Hoodopoly, Hiphopopoly, Thugopoly and Redneckopoly -- are coming soon.

    "It draws on stereotypes not as a means to degrade, but as a medium to bring together in laughter," Chang maintains, adding, "If we can't laugh at ourselves ... we'll continue to live in blame and bitterness."

    But the Ghettopoly board depicts figures labeled "Malcum X" and "Martin Luthor King Jr." -- intentionally misspelled -- noted Rev. Glenn Wilson, pastor of Enon Tabernacle Baptist Church.

    "This is beyond making fun, to use the caricature of Dr. King in this regard," Wilson said. "There's no way that game could be taken in any way other than that this man had racist intent in marketing it."

    The Philadelphia black clergy and Men United for a Better Philadelphia were just the latest to protest the game. In Chicago, the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina Catholic Church, called for a boycott of Urban Outfitters. In Florida, the St. Petersburg and Hillsborough County chapters of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People urged the company to stop carrying the game.

    "I was outraged. We called Outfitters, we wrote them a letter, we held a press conference, but we've had no response," Pfleger said Wednesday.
    Anyone want to play?

    Philadelphia newspapers have a little more detail about this story. The game creator is apparantly a Taiwanese immigrant. This explains his cluelessness on African-American racial sensitivity. I think his profits on this game will be short-lived.

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    Re: Ghettopoly

    Originally posted by Feephi
    I think his profits on this game will be short-lived.
    Not as long as this keeps up.
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    • #3
      Racial insensitivity will be the downfall of civilization. I'm not going to sue the guy when Redneckopoly comes out. Sheesh; bunch of *******s.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Harry Seldon
        Racial insensitivity will be the downfall of civilization. I'm not going to sue the guy when Redneckopoly comes out. Sheesh; bunch of *******s.
        Yeah but an argument could be made that the difference is that the game makes light of exploitation of poor urban neighborhoods by outsiders whereas I imagine a Redneckopoly' would just contain a lot of silly 'You might be a redneck if..' content.

        Shine displayed the game board, with properties including Westside Liquor, Harlem, The Bronx, and Long Beach City, and squares labeled Smitty's XXX Peep Show, Weinstein's Gold and Platinum, and Tyron's Gun Shop.
        Inner-city Blacks have more neighborhood disturbances when a liquor store moves into the neighborhood. Peep Shows, pawn shops, gun shops in a ghetto open up in proportion to drug and prostitution activity. Those businesses are supported by such illegal activity. This decreases the morale of the entire community.

        I think a line needs to be drawn somewhere to show some respect for the problems these ghetto communities face.

        Another information from related Phila newspaper story: This game creator whent to private schools and a prestigious college. Who is he to poke fun of these ghetto people?

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        • #5
          Why can't these people rise above the fun poking? Why do they need to start legal action or raise awareness of these issues? It's a game. If they don't like it, they shouldn't play it. "Raising awareness" just sells more copies of the game they're trying to supress.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Harry Seldon
            Why can't these people rise above the fun poking? Why do they need to start legal action or raise awareness of these issues? It's a game. If they don't like it, they shouldn't play it. "Raising awareness" just sells more copies of the game they're trying to supress.


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            • #7
              This is one stupid game...

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              • #8
                On the one hand, it seems like it's a bit of an overreaction.

                On the other hand, I'm not sure I'd appreciate "Jewopoly" where you get cards such as "Your smell some deli pickles with your giant Schanz" and, "You marry a girl with big kishkas". It's easy to sit back while you're not the one being criticized, but if someone made a game that poked fun at YOU, I bet there'd be a lot less of a "it's just a joke" mentality.

                What if someone made a video game where you play Al Queada agents hijacking a plane and smashing it into the WTC? I bet you that would be off the shelves in mere moments for being too insensitive.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Harry Seldon
                  Why can't these people rise above the fun poking? Why do they need to start legal action or raise awareness of these issues? It's a game. If they don't like it, they shouldn't play it. "Raising awareness" just sells more copies of the game they're trying to supress.
                  I suppose they dont want other people to play it, especially kids. And i guess they dont buy the idea that making a fuss will only sell more copies. Tricky question, that.
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                  • #10
                    "Shine displayed the game board, with properties including Westside Liquor, Harlem, The Bronx, and Long Beach City, and squares labeled Smitty's XXX Peep Show, Weinstein's Gold and Platinum, and Tyron's Gun Shop. "


                    So the game includes an element of antisemitism as well (and its just stupid - want it supposed to be the liquor stores that the Jews owned? Not many left I suppose, all Koreans by now. Suppose any Jewish Gold and Platinum stores? I doubt it)

                    Can I boycott this piece of trash as well?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Harry Seldon
                      Why can't these people rise above the fun poking? Why do they need to start legal action or raise awareness of these issues? It's a game. If they don't like it, they shouldn't play it. "Raising awareness" just sells more copies of the game they're trying to supress.
                      1st amendment - of course anyone should be able to buy it.

                      But should Urban Outfitters be able to retain its rep as a fashionable, upscale yuppie store? - I dont think so. Idiots.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Harry Seldon
                        Why can't these people rise above the fun poking? Why do they need to start legal action or raise awareness of these issues?
                        Didnt I just explain? Because they live in these ghetto conditions daily and many of them dont always have the brains or money to break out of their situation. Because most city governments dont do enough to assist them in revitalizing their community. And because some snot-nosed prep-school foreign-born game creator thinks their situation is humorous and makes money from their suffering.

                        If this was a Monopoly game with an Amish theme that poked fun at the Amish lifestyle then that would be okay because the Amish choose to live the way they do. The ghetto environment is created from exploitation of the minority race. That is nothing to poke fun at.

                        I doubt that these community protesters will get the game to stop being produced, but perhaps they can cause the stores distributing the game some economic problems thru boycott and raise some awareness through the media about urban blight.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Feephi
                          Because they live in these ghetto conditions daily and many of them dont always have the brains or money to break out of their situation.

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                          The ghetto environment is created from exploitation of the minority race.
                          At the risk of being flamed, I think you contradicted yourself there. First you say that the people don't have the brains to break out, and then you talk about exploitation. Granted, I have only lived in the US for a little over a year, as an excahnge student - and thus probably don't understand this whole "racial sensivity" thing, it really strikes me. I hear this argument almost every day and seems quite strange to me. I may be blind to social issues, but I don't see any oppression whatsoever. In my university, there are quite a few blacks as well as other nationalities, and they are all brilliant people, who were able to make it out of the "ghetto". I think that if you are born in a poor family, you have to use your own brains to break out, and noone owes you anything for it, and if instead of working or studying you choose to yell about oppression, well, too bad.

                          Sorry if I'm being insensitive there.

                          Addendum: That being said, I have mixed feelings on the game itself. While I really don't agree with the whole oppression argument, as explained above, I am not really sure what to think about poking fun at the poor. It might not be a good idea. Kind of like joking about the WTC, like someone above said, though not that bad, I guess.
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                          • #14
                            When some people say "brains" they actually mean "education", and the ghetto is not an ideal learning environment, regardless of your race. Of course, that doesn't mean everyone gets stuck in the slums - but for ever person that "gets out" there's a friend killed in a gang fight, or addicted to drugs, or turned into career thief, ect...
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                            • #15
                              Feephi, that is a poor argument. If you think that the plight of urban neighborhoods has fallen through the cracks then you've been living in a cave somewhere. People are assaulted with images of the inner city in every facet of their lives. How are housing projects an exploitation of minority races? Offering low income housing is somehow a trap to force minorities into sweat shops and genetic testing? Maybe that "snot-nosed prep-school foreign-born game creator" thinks this situation is as humorous as the Wayans brothers and black comics in general. But I guess that's ok because they're black, right?

                              In conclusion, what I read into your posts here is that you are suffering from a case of white guilt and an inability to poke a little fun at yourself which you then project onto other situations. If you want to continue this, why don't you go to the OT?

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