Patrician 2 or Tropico 2

[DrSpike]

Superceded by Medieval Total War now, but still a very playable game.

[Ecthy]

Isn't Medieval inferior to EU? And both totally different from Shogun?

[DrSpike]

MTW is not totally different to STW..........dunno where you would get that idea.

MTW is quite different from EU, though not inferior.

[Ecthy]

"Different, but equally good"?

[Nikolai]

M:TW is absolutely inferior to EU IMHO. That will say, if you don't play the game just to battle. That's the only part M:TW is any good(though I don't like to play like that). EU2 is much better as a game overall. So much deeper and accurate.

[Ecthy]

Ah. thanks.

[General Ludd]

Nikolai is right, Total War is not a good grand strategy game, it's only real point is commanding the battles. (which is very nicely done) Otherwise it's little more then a simplistic board game.