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  • #16
    Its my IRC, MSN and RL nick. And its more of a real name than "War of Art", which means I get called "War" or "WoA". Instead I can be called Jam, which is more what I'm used to.

    I'm happier with it, so you should be too

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    • #17
      Well it doesn't really matter what I think.

      But for the record WarOfArt was IMO a good nick.

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      • #18
        It was, true... I'm kinda missing it already But onwards we go...

        -Jam
        1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
        That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
        Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
        Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by The Rusty Gamer
          Thks again UR. So, in other words, I could speed up Cossacks (and possibly Civ III?) by putting in another 128 or 256MB RAM.

          Now I think about it, the slow initialisation of CM01/02 could be because of disk-swapping as well.
          There's another thing you can do, which is to optimise your swap file. Try this only if you have more than one drive (either physical or logical available). Assuming the swap file is on C: and the other HDD is D:

          1. Make sure there's at least twice as much space on D: as you have RAM. In fact you need a bit more. Defrag D:.

          2. Move the swap file to D:, make sure it has both a maximum and minimum size of twice your RAM. Restart.

          3. Defrag C:. Move the swap file back to C:. Restart.
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          • #20
            In many cases Win98 will encounter performance slowdowns from using more then 256MB but usually up to 384MB should be OK or even optimal.

            Best option; switch to XP
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            • #21
              Originally posted by alva
              Best option; switch to XP
              Don't. Some games just won't run under XP. Besides, you need even more RAM and processor power just to drive the beast.
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              • #22
                Is it a good idea to keep the swap RAM at a fixed length (512MB)rather than letting Windows do it dynamically then?
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                • #23
                  I run Windows 98 and have 384 MB RAM. Whether the extra RAM helps or not, I cannot tell. But I would be disappointed if it didn't, since I upgraded from 128 about a year or two ago...

                  As for going higher with the OS. I asked the hackers at the local computer shop about it some time ago and they adviced me not to upgrade from Windows 98. They told me it's mostly eye candy anyway and that it uses the system's resources intensively. Again, I wouldn't know...

                  Carolus

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                  • #24
                    Well, I've done the defragging etc that UR said. The question remains if I should keep virtual RAM fixed at 512MB or let Windows deal with it.

                    Also, what about Windows 98 Second Edition? I don't suppose that does much more?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                      Don't. Some games just won't run under XP. Besides, you need even more RAM and processor power just to drive the beast.
                      I have yet to encounter a game that didn't run under XP, yes there are a few older ones but it's not like '98 ran just about everything without problems. Oh and XP doesn't crash the way '98 does, I've done two reinstallments in 2 years now (one with a full upgrade), IIRC when using '98 I did more Formats a week
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                      Yes, it's needs more resources but at least XP takes advantage of the extra memory.
                      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by The Rusty Gamer
                        Well, I've done the defragging etc that UR said. The question remains if I should keep virtual RAM fixed at 512MB or let Windows deal with it.

                        Also, what about Windows 98 Second Edition? I don't suppose that does much more?
                        Yes, a fixid is better then a dynamic one.
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                        We are all talking about the SE edition(at least I am), the first is even worse then ME
                        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by The Rusty Gamer
                          Well, I've done the defragging etc that UR said. The question remains if I should keep virtual RAM fixed at 512MB or let Windows deal with it.
                          A fixed swap file is better. The reason is Windows keeps messing with the size of the file if you set it on dynamic, and it may then contain non-contiguous areas. Both events will slow down access.

                          Originally posted by The Rusty Gamer
                          Also, what about Windows 98 Second Edition? I don't suppose that does much more?
                          If you aren't using W98SE, I strongly urge you to upgrade to it. If that's still possible, that is.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by alva
                            I have yet to encounter a game that didn't run under XP, yes there are a few older ones but it's not like '98 ran just about everything without problems.
                            I guess it depends on the games.

                            Originally posted by alva
                            Oh and XP doesn't crash the way '98 does, I've done two reinstallments in 2 years now (one with a full upgrade), IIRC when using '98 I did more Formats a week
                            Windows 98 could be configured to be quite stable. I haven't reinstalled the Wintel box my SO plays Alpha Centauri on for a couple of years.
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                            • #29
                              Win98 had to be reinstalled 3 or 4 times a year though...........which was a pain. As long as you have a semi-decent system I think win2k is far more stable and needs far less reinstalling. And it uses large amounts of memory better.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DrSpike
                                Win98 had to be reinstalled 3 or 4 times a year though...........which was a pain.
                                Not me.
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