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  • #16
    LOL.. No It's not xenophobia, is just a "Monroe Doctrine" similar to the US one.

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    • #17
      Forgive my stupid question but what the hell are you talking about
      I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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      • #18
        The government of Centralis is apalled that theKingdom of Wine would consider transplanting anything even vaugely resembling the Monroe Doctrine into Apolyton. If Bulbagarden is allied with Alecrast, what should it matter if it is within or without Apolyton?

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        • #19
          The nation of Upper Riis would like to express our support of the Kingdom of Wine in the matter of regional hegemony.

          Apolyton is for the Apolytoners, and Upper Riis feels that any other nation should not act within our sphere.

          For this reason, Upper Riis has chosen to support the Kingdom of Wine as a new UN Delegate. With the added regional prestige this would bring, Upper Riis hopes to show that Wine is our leader in this region.

          In other news, the closed Autocracy of Lower Riis continues to build up her weapons in anticipation of a "reunification war."

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          • #20
            A computerized ballot system was used for the referendum, with instantaneous tallying of results. The system has already been in development in Alecrast for some time, and was intended to be first used in our parlimentary elections. It was the use of this that allowed for such a quick poll.
            "Of course," Komnenus, emperor of Iguana Fire rises and states. "You would use your OWN, possibly rigged election software... Why didn't you think to use the nations' own methods of election? Were you afraid that you could not rig those as well... I would favor a second, internationally monitored election that has less possiblity of fraud."

            "Iguana Fire might be willing to cede the point to annexation if a second, internationally monitored force, led by a regional coalition can be assembled to join the matter."

            "Iguana Fire is willing to contribute at least a thousand peacekeeping troops, including some of its finest I-Corps and members of The Arm security force.
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            • #21
              Actually, the software was in development from an outsourced firm based in Karakas, with offices in Centralis and Alecrast. As for why we didn't use Sheepsta's own methods of referendum, it was simply because it would've taken too long to handcount so many ballots, not to mention print them all, and it would be almost impossible to hold that style of vote with the rebals trying to harass the voters.

              Quite frankly Komnenus, how dare you accuse us of rigging the election. What justification or reasoning do you come to that conclusion with.
              Veni Vidi Castravi Illegitimos

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              • #22
                Centralis agrees with the statements of the Alecrastian representative, and would also like to ask exactly on what basis the Emperor can accuse Alecrast of undemocratic methods, when your own nation has been described by the UN and variosu human rights organizations as having very few political rights at all.

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                • #23
                  To: Riis
                  We thank you for your support, I hope this will lead to closer economical and political ties between us.

                  To: Centralis, Alecrast
                  We already stated that it is not only about Bulbagarden taking a piece, but it is ALSO about Sheepsta being annexed by Alecrast.
                  The United States of Sheepsta were helped by the Kingdom of Wine, Jackson, Dark Valley (as well as troops from Centralis IIRC) in getting to power, and we have defeated the Catholic fundamentalist government there long time ago.
                  As Sheepstan Fundamentalist Rebels were threatning the righous government of the USS, there was just need to send troops to help the USS, and that's what we thought Alecrast was doing.
                  But apparently they were just trying to get some more land for them, and for their foreign allies.
                  The Kingdom of Wine will never recognize Alecrastan and Bulbagardenese (??) control of those territories as legal, unless a second votation with an international crew doing the spoils will have place.

                  And on the last thing, we don't want any Bulbagardenese colony in Apolyton, we know that now they are friends and allies, but we never know what can happen in the future, as such we ask Bulbagarden to withdraw from his territories in Sheepstan Island, and if they need something in return, they shall just ask for it.

                  Saluti
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                  The trick is the doing something else."
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                  • #24
                    If one was to wonder why the Sheepsta people first asked the people of Alecrast to assume control for the time being, one would personally think that it would be for two reasons. Firstly, for our demonstrated ability to rebuild a nation quickly after chaos, not once, but twice (The Chaos Wars immediatly preceeding the formation of Alecrast as a nation, and the rebuilding following the EMP pulse attack), and secondly, for our skill in dealing with terrorist threats, such as that posed by the forces of Cardinal Ew.
                    Veni Vidi Castravi Illegitimos

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                    • #25
                      The USJ supports the Kingdom of Wine in their postion. We do not foreign powers establishing a foothold in Apolyton. If one nation thinks they can do it, this will only cause others to think they can do it too. We have enough problems of our own. We realize that they are allies of your nation, but we still are concerned. Our troops fought to establish the USS, and the fact that you did not come to the nations of Apolyton for help first is trubling to us.

                      We request that new elections be held with internation observers. These other election we had no idea their were held untill you annouced the results. We are sorry for sounding disstrustfull, but your actions have caused us to doubt if you really tell the truth or not. we believe that if you rehold the elections with internation observers and have your ally with draw from Sheepsta it will help in reestablishing the trust between our two nations and rest of apolyton.
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                      • #26
                        And if we have the elections again and the people of Sheepsta show clearly that they are fine with our ally Bulbagarden assuming control over the southern regions, as they decided under the first referendum?
                        Veni Vidi Castravi Illegitimos

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                        • #27
                          Iguana Fire merely wished to state that it thought it was mighty suspicious that a nation would supposedly use its own voting software and count its own votes in its own favor in antoher nation instead of seeming to arbitrate unpersuaded by any side.

                          Actually, the software was in development from an outsourced firm based in Karakas, with offices in Centralis and Alecrast. As for why we didn't use Sheepsta's own methods of referendum, it was simply because it would've taken too long to handcount so many ballots, not to mention print them all, and it would be almost impossible to hold that style of vote with the rebals trying to harass the voters.
                          Why was this information not made avaliable at the beginning of this dispute? Komnenus regrets his brash comments, but states again that perhaps the voting should have been done in the traditional methods. Speed is no substitute for security and tradition. What if Sheepstains were scared away from the polls by the new technologies? What if they did not know how to work them correctly?

                          And rebels trying to harass the voters? Were the rebels not allowed to vote? Were you arresting any rebel who tried to vote?

                          It seems as though you kept dissidents away from places of polling.

                          Therefore, Iguana Fire joins with the Kingdom of Wine and USJ in asking for an internationally observed, second election, made in the indiginous methods of the populace and allowing all to vote- including the so-called rebels.


                          OOC:
                          when your own nation has been described by the UN and variosu human rights organizations as having very few political rights at all.
                          frankly, I don't see what that's based on, since I let nazis protest, let people go naked, etc... I never figured out what political freedoms is based on.
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                          • #28
                            In the southern city of For Jesus the United Socialist Republics has been declared by the Chairman, Nikos Ginakis. The Socialist Party of Sheepsta has decreed that Alecrast wishes to silence them from the world, by 'peacefully' subjugating the Sheepstan people, culture and language.

                            Already 35 million people have died, but the new Sheepstan nation will rise from the ashes and liberate Alecrastian occupied Sheepsta.

                            The Chairman of the Socialist Republics calls upon the OSDN alliance to help get Sheepstan independence back.

                            occ: I was indeed in hospital, and this fell o the waylay. New Sheepsta is indeed a new nation, Sheepsta having been disbanded by the game, and I can no longer get into it.
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                            • #29
                              Centralis wishes to know exactly why the Socialist Party has 'decreed' that Alecrast has been attempting to subjugate Sheepsta, and would also like to see the evidence of the alleged atrocities, given that we have seen none despite a large epacekeeping force in the area, 24 hour satellite monitoring, and a large media presence, who would have noticed very quickly had more than half the population suddenly been killed.

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                              • #30
                                The proof is the utter lack of Sheepstans alive. Before the fall og the USS government the Sheepstan population was 40 million plus, now it is 5 million.

                                The Socialists tell the honorable delegation from Centralis that until they have been through what we have, they have no reason to argue the point. The truth is that Alecrast and other nations occupying parts of the Sheepstan homeland have committed, rape, torture, genocide and extortionb of the honest and har working Sheepstan population.
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