In-Defense-of-AI Alliance

[Jack_www]

We dont trust dictators, weather they are human or a computer. Such elections if held will still result in your being in total controll with no checks on your power, this we cannot accept.

[Drogue]

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With elections. No dictator. Election will result in people's wishes. If human elected, be like before. If Akizeta elected, be like no. People's decision. Why problem?
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[Jack_www]

You can do whatever you feel like. If you feel killing a million people will make everyone happy you will do so. If the people feel like blowing us a city half way awround the world what is there to stop you from doing it? Also you can say that is what the people want, and use that as cover to do what ever you want. With no checks on your power there is nothing stoping you from abusing your power. That is what we oppose.

[Az]

How could you claim that you want people's happiness if you kill them? This is nothing but steel-cold-blooded violence in order to preserve your power. What is your democracy if you mindcontrol everyone in your country. The dice are loaded, AkiZeta, you might just admit it.

[Jack_www]

Also the rights of the minorities(not speaking about race) needs to be protected as well. In your system their is nothing stoping you from killing them off if it makes people "happy" as you say. What if some hates a Jewish person and wants them dead, will you kill that person to make the other one happy??

[Kassiopeia]

Jack, I doubt that. My bet would be that the AI simply mind-controls the hater to remove the feeling. Effective, I admit, but what else can be done with mind controlling? Not to mention that even this sample case people's civil liberties are atrociously offended.

[Az]

The PRDV is disturbed by the stagnation of human thought in the new AI nations. We await Greater Finland's decision as to what to do on the issue.

[red_jon]

Due to my population reaching critical population densities (currently 98,000,000 in a network of cities spanning around 25 miles squared) there have been various attempts by rogue AIs to subvert power, in an attempt to control the populace.

Though the AI was doing what it percieved to be the logically right thing to do, its violent and undemocratic methods have caused a clampdown on AI sentience in The Federation, for fear of a repetition of these events.

The population density problem has not yet been solved, however - 92% of the citizens currently live in buildings of 35 floors or higher.

[Drogue]

Azazel:

Originally posted by Azazel
How could you claim that you want people's happiness if you kill them? This is nothing but steel-cold-blooded violence in order to preserve your power. What is your democracy if you mindcontrol everyone in your country. The dice are loaded, AkiZeta, you might just admit it.

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We have not killed anyone. We want happiness. If killing one results in happiness of many millions. We will do it. That has never been the case. Therefore, we have never killed. We do not mind control. People are free. Free to do what they wish. Questions have not been answered. Why this false propaganda? What stand we accused of?
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The PRDV is disturbed by the stagnation of human thought in the new AI nations. We await Greater Finland's decision as to what to do on the issue.

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We do not stagnate human thoughts. We incourage input from humans. Thoughts must be allowed to flourish for people to be happy. Therefore they are allowed to flourish.
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Jack:

You can do whatever you feel like. If you feel killing a million people will make everyone happy you will do so. If the people feel like blowing us a city half way awround the world what is there to stop you from doing it?

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What is to stop you from doing this? What is to stop any leader? Why is democracy in Akiria different from Democracy is Jackson? We have election. We let people decide. All we want is to be happy. All. We have no other desire. What have we done to warrent such disrespect?
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RJ:

Due to my population reaching critical population densities (currently 98,000,000 in a network of cities spanning around 25 miles squared) there have been various attempts by rogue AIs to subvert power, in an attempt to control the populace.

Though the AI was doing what it percieved to be the logically right thing to do, its violent and undemocratic methods have caused a clampdown on AI sentience in The Federation, for fear of a repetition of these events.

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Why the untruth? We care only about Akriria. We have no business in Redfern. Care about happiness of Akirians only. Redfern has not attacked us. We do not wish to attack Redfern.
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Kass:

Originally posted by Kassiopeia
Jack, I doubt that. My bet would be that the AI simply mind-controls the hater to remove the feeling. Effective, I admit, but what else can be done with mind controlling? Not to mention that even this sample case people's civil liberties are atrociously offended.

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We do not control minds. We allow happines to flourish. Why care about liberties if happy? What are liberties? Simply man giving man assurances. Akiria

Civil Rights: Very Good

We do not offend liberties. If liberties stand in the way of happiness, we will stop them. However that has yet to be the case.
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[Az]

So what happened to all of the 'imperfect' humans, AkiZeta?
The council wants answers not ever-repeating lies.

thoughts are allowed to flourish? People are blind, because you have a direct neural input to their brain, Akizeta. You're a scourge on the face of the world.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Azazel
So what happened to all of the 'imperfect' humans, AkiZeta?
The council wants answers not ever-repeating lies.

thoughts are allowed to flourish? People are blind, because you have a direct neural input to their brain, Akizeta. You're a scourge on the face of the world.

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People are not blind. We have no direct neural input. All humans are imperfect. All creatures are imperfect. All we can do is allow happiness to flourish. We cannot create perfection. Perfection does not exist. Therefore, we have done nothing to all the imperfect humans. All that has changed is the government. Creation of happiness for Akirians single aim. Everything else derivative. All actions stem from that. We do not have mind control. I cannot lie. I am programmed not not.
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[Az]

You've be known to say that "no complete happiness can exist with imperfect humans". I know that, you know that. give it up, evildoer.

[Jack_www]

In our system of government their are checks and balances on the power of each branch of the government. No one holds all the power, it is divided amoung varrious branches. Each branch of government has checks on the other to prevent them from abusing people's civil rights. That is why such a thing would never happen in our country. YOu on the other hand have no checks on your power. There is nothing stoping you from killing to make others happy, and you even admit, if killing one would make a million happy you would do it. What if killing that person is in anther country, or it is just more then one person?? We will never support a AI controll everything, you are not God, you are just a computer. YOu do not know what it is to be human, so how could you rule them???

[Sheep]

In my suystem of government the Lord Protector holds all the power and can execute whom he pleases when he pleases and appoint whom whenever.

[ColdWizard]

Elected Official, AI, Pyschotic Dictator, or Evil Finn, so long as they don't harm Eternal Cold it matters not. We don't join the alliance, but neither do we condemn AI.