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    As the UN delegate, I will use this thread to post UN resolutions and to debate them. I'd like as much input on them as possible.

    The Current Resolution

    Simple observation notes that there are several proposals on the docket to be voted on in the coming weeks. However, at the current pace, and with the certain increase in proposals in the future, the UN will soon be swamped with proposals waiting for votes. This resolution is to decrease the voting time allowed on resolutions to just two days. This amount of time will give interested nations time to debate the details, and yet still allow queued proposals to reach the UN floor in a timely manner.

    Votes For: 2351

    Votes Against: 724

    Have voted against, because that is what the majority seemed to want on the other thread, and that is what I believe, but am willing to change if strongly opposed.
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    But he would think of something

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  • #2
    I think the Martian proposal is superior to this one; we will still have plenty of time to discuss and vote, but the proceedings will be pseeded up immensely.

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    • #3
      I voted for. Although our regional delegate voted against. Oh well.

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      • #4
        I agree with GT, the Martian proposal is much better, as is an amendment I believe is coming up shortening it to 3 days. However, 2 days is siomply not enough for discussion IMHO.
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        For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
        But he would think of something

        "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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        • #5
          I voted against, hoping that the 3 day waiting time will be implemented.

          I have a question: how do proposals get approved to become resolutoin? I assume only the UN delegate can do that? Each proposal needs 50 aprovals to become a resolution.

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          • #6
            I was right. Only delegates can approve proposals. IT needs a total of 58.

            To our UN Delegate Drogue: Have you apporved any resently? I think Apolytons should take a more active roll in suggesting to the Delegate which resoutions they feel are worthy. I myself have looked through about 40 and found the following worthy of the Apolyton nations:

            Evening the Playing field
            Cultural Exchange Bureau
            Banishment of Tax shelters
            Abortion a nations choice
            Region Army
            International Criminal Court

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            • #7
              I voted against, as 2 days is just a too short time.
              3 days might be good, I will vote for at the Martian Amendement

              Saluti
              "Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else.
              The trick is the doing something else."
              — Leonardo da Vinci
              "If God forbade drinking, would He have made wine so good?" - Cardinal Richelieu
              "In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio

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              • #8
                I have approved the Martian resolution, one on randomising starting regions, and to end slavery. As it stands, I was without a connection for much of the weekend, and so haven't had a proper chance to look through the resolutions. If anyone has any they wish to suggest I look, please do, and I will, and I will look through myself in the next day or two and then possibly poll (of we have our own forum, and so can post new threads) for which ones you wish me to support.

                Edit: I'm sorry, but since I am no longer UN Delegate (is this a technical glitch, or did 5 people remove thier support for me almost simultaniously?) I cannot do what I had proposed. If I am reinstated, I shall endeavor to check through all the UN resolutions proposed and endorse all that seem appropriate, and all that the majority would like me to (except for ones promoting war, I will not put my name to any proposal that promotes war).
                Last edited by Drogue; December 29, 2002, 17:44.
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                For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                But he would think of something

                "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                • #9
                  wtf? Seems I've now been appointed UN Regional Delegate. Oh well, probably won't change very much, since I have a similar attitude to Drogue here...

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                  • #10
                    Long post

                    Since I'm now back as UN Delegate, I want peoples input on what reolutions I should support. I have looked at some of the resolutions, and here is a selection. Please tell me which ones I should support, and your reasons for it.

                    Resolutions (Number of supporters after resolution)
                    A new drug:
                    A resolution to ban, legalize, or encourage recreational drugs.
                    MG has all the effects of dope except the addictivness and harmfull side effects.

                    Disarming Terrorists:
                    A resolution to slash worldwide military spending.
                    The UN Axis of Evil campaign has been a great success, eliminating the support structures that terrorists have used against the world.
                    I propose that we destroy the majority of weapons created for that campaign to prevent terrorists from easily obtaining new weapons from poor nations. 2

                    Free Nuclear Proliferation:
                    A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.
                    That nuclear technology, especially in the field of nuclear bombs and other weapons of mass destruction, shall be disseminated to all nationstates. This assures the security for all, since the usage by any one state will guarantee mutual annihilation. 1

                    Tree Planting Initiative:
                    A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment through planting trees. 7

                    Mulitple Proposals in UN:
                    Multiple proposals to be voted on should be allowed at the United Nations. Far better then shortening the debate time allowed for each one. 6

                    Legalise Drugs:
                    I propose that drug laws should be re-thought, i'm not saying everyone has to completely eradicate drug laws but decrimilization of some, less harmfull drugs such as marajuana. 2

                    Inter-Species Marriage:
                    Does a person have the right to marry out side of his/her own species? 1

                    Subsistence Security
                    The resolution stipulates that all citizens of the UN nations be provided with 24 ounces of vegetable or fruit product and 1 quart of clean, pure water, per day. Each member nation is allowed to decide what fruits and/or vegetables will be provided to its citizens. 2

                    Worldwide Minimum Wage
                    In this highly civilized world, people are still being forced to work for little or no money by their employers. We must act quickly to raise the income bar. 4

                    And finally a controversial one:
                    Abolition of Religion:
                    Religion has stood in our way long enough. This resolution will prohibit the teachings of religion and theology outside the history classroom; any person or persons attempting to indoctrinate the young the world with religious nonsense will be punished severely.
                    No longer will scientific progress be slowed by arrogant, ignorant and thoroughly evil religious preachers. The truth of our origins, of our future and of our purpose will no longer be hidden from us by those who seek power through religious indoctrination of the weak-minded population.
                    The abolition of religion will usher in a scientific golden age and benefit mankind for millenia to come. 2
                    End of Resolutions

                    More to come later, if people like the idea. This is just for approving resolutions to be heard, not for the actual vote in approved ones. As always, if you want me to look at any, please either post here, PM me, or send me a telegram, with the url or page number for it. Thanks for the input.

                    I have posted on technical forums about the disappearing endorsements, as I think its happening again (It says I have 3, but 5 pending approval, have a look at Akiria for latest figures). When I receive a reply, I'll post it here.
                    Last edited by Drogue; January 5, 2003, 11:49.
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                    For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                    But he would think of something

                    "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                    • #11
                      Drug control and marriage policy are duties best left to individual nations. The UN would be overstepping its boundaries in any attempt to interfere with individual nations' laws.

                      While the proliferation of nuclear knowledge is a good idea in theory, there are too many nations we fear would use it to their own ends without thought to the consequences. The Commonwealth cannot support such a proposal in good faith.

                      There is no logical reason for any nation to oppose a tree planting initiative.

                      It is only obvious that the UN consider multiple proposals simulatenously. There is more than enough time available for it.

                      Subsistience security is definitely a good idea in theory, and we encourage Akiria to support it, but there are details that need to be considered: Where would the money come from for such an initiative? Who would be responsible for ensuring that the details of the initiative are carried through - individual nations or a committee of nations?

                      The establishment of a worldwide minimum wage, on the other hand, is only practical.

                      We strongly encourage our UN Delegate to not only oppose the proposal that would abolish religion but also to be extremely vocal in doing so. The right to believe is sacrosant to individuals and no international body of any sort should be allowed to tamper with it. The approval of such a proposal would force the Commonwealth to end its involvement with the UN, as it goes directly against what the leaders of this nation strive for.
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                      • #12
                        I do disagree with the Ban on Religion as it is there. I think teaching it is a good thing, and freedom of belief is very important. However, I feel it is important to have it debated and tabled, to see the support for it. If it is voted upon, I will vote against, but i think it should be discussed and voted upon, so would like to help it become tabled. Akiria believes that religion should never be forced on a person, and as such would support a ban on religion in government, if it is not strongly opposed by other Apolyton nations.
                        Smile
                        For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                        But he would think of something

                        "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                        • #13
                          The Republic of Centralis will not support a 'Ban on Religion' per se, as this would be an intolerable infringement on freedom of thought, but will strongly support a resolution calling for a ban on religion in government and forbidding that religion be taught in school as anything other than a belief system (i.e. no teching of creationism in science classes).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Drogue
                            I do disagree with the Ban on Religion as it is there. I think teaching it is a good thing, and freedom of belief is very important. However, I feel it is important to have it debated and tabled, to see the support for it. If it is voted upon, I will vote against, but i think it should be discussed and voted upon, so would like to help it become tabled. Akiria believes that religion should never be forced on a person, and as such would support a ban on religion in government, if it is not strongly opposed by other Apolyton nations.
                            I would highly suggest then, that you rally support against the current resolution as it stands, for as you stated yourself, it is unacceptable in its current form. The Commonwealth will compose a revised proposal of the form suggested by yourself and Centralis, which you can then support in the current proposal's place.
                            CGN | a bunch of incoherent nonsense
                            Chris Jericho: First-Ever Undisputed Champion of Professional Wrestling & God Incarnate
                            Mystique & Aura: Appearing Nightly @ Yankee Stadium! | Red & Pewter Pride
                            Head Coach/General Manager, Kyrandia Dragonhawks (2004 Apolyton Fantasy Football League Champions)

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                            • #15
                              I will not support it, when it comes to a vote, however I feel it should be debated. Is there an objection with me adding my support to debating it, and then voting against it? If there is I will not, however I feel discussion is important, and feel it will be voted down.
                              Smile
                              For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                              But he would think of something

                              "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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