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  • #16
    My personal take on the large figures generated is that they would apply for a very 'average' force... that is, with no special advantages or disadvantages in training equipment, or anything like that. A nation that used a lower number than that generated could then justify having better-than-average training/equipment/whatever, while nations that felt they had too few troops could have more, while taking a hit to any or all of these variables.

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    • #17
      Maybe instead of it being people, it could be money? Which you then spend on items of equipment, upgrades, or just your average militia man?

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      • #18
        Ooh, that would be good.

        I was gonna suggest it includes reserves, paramilitary police, state-run terrorist organizations etc., but that's even better.
        Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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        • #19
          I don't think calling it actual 'money' is a very good idea... too much would then depend on nit-picking over equipment prices, the cost of training, and so on. If we're going to go down that route, it would be best just to use it (as I suggested) as a general indication of your military's resources, which can then be allocated to specific areas.

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          • #20
            I think the need for the calculator is definatly there. As Rasputin said it will stop the "My Army is bigger than your Army" debate.
            I don't think the figure are too inflated. I did a bit of playing around today with some other NS countries figures and stats and it's fair to say you may have 3bil population, but if your main concern is Book Publishing then you military would be relitivly small.
            On the other hand if you have Defence, Arms manufacturing and Automotive as priorities then your mil would be naturaly bigger per capita.
            As for larger armyies being less technologicaly advanced, that's where IT should come into. Say if you had an Army of 8-12 mil and no IT then fair enough. But if you had IT as a priority then you should have the latest equipment.
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            • #21
              what alot of people here are forgetting is that they are compaing these numbers gernerated to those of real life , but forgetting that no nation in the world has 3 bill population..

              the calculator works its just that we have huge populations. the numberes generated are small comparitivly to the popualtions.

              by placing in usa details i get close to their numbers. so they are fully equipped and ready without having to discount their numbers.

              i agree with general tact here, if a nation wishes to reduce their numbers that their choose , these are just maximum numbers.

              and dont forget that the numbers include the total military which is all support too. for a modern well equipped army that can amount to 50 % of the total , so a calculated figure of 4,000,000 for isntance is actually onyl 2,000,000 of front line troops.
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              • #22
                lots of good work Rasputin
                good luck with your Master Plan!
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                alms-sorry about that then. I guess I misunderstood you.
                and appointing a GM for certain roleplaying threads is a good idea.
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                • #23
                  Ras: how about my idea of it not being actual number of soldiers, by points with which everyone would build his own army?
                  urgh.NSFW

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                  • #24
                    Hmmm... points sounds good- then people can micromanage their army into tanks/espionague/etc.
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                    • #25
                      Yes. So one could say "I am spending x number of points on the war is bananaland"

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Kalius
                        Yes. So one could say "I am spending x number of points on the war is bananaland"
                        much of a muchness really... would be nice to have some sort of idea what your standing army is at any time so others can decide if you big or smal lenough to attack

                        most nations in the real world today know each others numbers

                        if you dont spend the points till you goto war then it leave sit open to god modding again .. you know this war i suddenyl got all aircraft, next war i got tanks . etc etc..

                        look as i see it at present we have notihng to go by, this is better than nothing... so lets implement it and change it as we go...
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                        • #27
                          look as i see it at present we have notihng to go by, this is better than nothing... so lets implement it and change it as we go...
                          of course, that's the best plan of all
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                          • #28
                            What kinds of numbers are you getting when you try to input some RL nations? I think that would go a long way to easing some of my concerns about any military calculator.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Rasputin


                              i agree with general tact here, if a nation wishes to reduce their numbers that their choose , these are just maximum numbers.
                              Does anybody ever choose to reduce their numbers?
                              Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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                              • #30
                                The last Labor government here did a pretty good job of reducing the defence force.
                                Attitude reflects Leadership!!!

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