Messed up

[Rasputin]

well it didnt change your economy rating so maybe it doesnt take the fact you outlawed private enterprise into the frightening status..

[GeneralTacticus]

I see no reason why that would be the case; rather, my economy was simply strong enough that it could absorb the change without any serious downsides.

[Rasputin]

if the outlawing was just an issue that was raised , it probalby low on the basis that NS uses to do the calcs..

As you said Russia is classic case, Communism somehow doesnt match the output of Capitlaist ,, But it interesting anyway

[GeneralTacticus]

if the outlawing was just an issue that was raised , it probalby low on the basis that NS uses to do the calcs..

Again, what? I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

As you said Russia is classic case, Communism somehow doesnt match the output of Capitlaist ,, But it interesting anyway

Actually, my point regarding Russia was the effects of making the transition from one to the other - from semi-feudalism to communism, and more recently, from communism to capitalism. Both of these transitions caused massive economic damage, because they were so drastic and abrupt.

[Rasputin]

ok to lay it out in simple terms,


The term "Frightening " econmy" is a NAtionStates term, based on your resposnes to the issues raised each day.

It puts certain values on certain responses. this then goes into its calculation to make its decision on what your econmy is and what your major industrys are.

So if "outlawing Private enterprise" was an issue you enacted then if it doesnt alter your NationsTates econmoy then it musnt hav eput much worth on that decision

[GeneralTacticus]

Except that in other cases, it does affect the economy significantly, as UR himself pointed out. My point in response is that if you manage the economy well, it doesn't have too much impact.

[Rasputin]

ok now i undrstand your point, based on al lother decisions you are stil lcarrying...

Good to see some people RP their nations correctly... unlike some that ignore what NS says about their economies and industries

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
Ever taken a look at Russia?

I don't think NS's economic model is anywhere remotely sophisticated enough to start comparing to real world situations. I mean, Noosland has some of the biggest industries in the region, but the economy is ranked "imploded."

However, your case is interesting. The former USSR, by all accounts, had a better economy status than Imperial Russia.

[GeneralTacticus]

Not immediately after the changeover, which is what I'm taking about. In NS terms, they outlawed private enterprise, took the hit, and then starting doing stuff to boost the economy.

[xiaodave]

Has anyone noticed that the top of the scale in Nation States are bad results.

RT)Economic -----------Political Freedoms-----Civil Rights(-- )

(15)Frightening----------Corrupted--------------Widely Abused
(14)All-Consuming------Widely Abused---------Frightening
(13)Powerhouse---------Excessive --------------Excessive
(12)Thriving-------------World Benchmark------World Benchmark
(11)Very Strong---------Superb-----------------Superb
(10)Strong---------------Excellent---------------Excellent
(09)Good----------------Very good-------------Very Good
(08)Fair------------------Good------------------Good
(07)Reasonable----------Average----------------Average
(06)Developing-----------Below Average--------Below Average
(05)Struggling------------Some-------------------Some
(04)Weak----------------Few--------------------Few
(03)Fragile---------------Rare--------------------Rare
(02)Basket Case---------Unheard Of-------------Unheard Of
(01)Imploded------------Outlawed---------------Outlawed


Level 12 seems to be the cut off for a healthy sector, perhaps 13 in economy. But All-consuming and frightening are not good economies to have.

[Urban Ranger]

My other country:

E: Frightening
P: Very good
C; Very good

[GeneralTacticus]

Yes, I've seen that argument before; that comparison would suggest that when you get to All-Consuming or Frightening, your economy is getting too large in some way. While you can argue about whether this means that it's better to aim for a lower economy ranking, I don't see what that has to do with this discussion.

[xiaodave]

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
Except that in other cases, it does affect the economy significantly, as UR himself pointed out. My point in response is that if you manage the economy well, it doesn't have too much impact.

My point was perhaps it doesnt have as much impact because a 'frightening' economy is already broken. Therefore, outlawing private enterprise would only make it a little more broken.

[GeneralTacticus]

'Broken' in what sense?

[xiaodave]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


I don't think NS's economic model is anywhere remotely sophisticated enough to start comparing to real world situations. I mean, Noosland has some of the biggest industries in the region, but the economy is ranked "imploded."

However, your case is interesting. The former USSR, by all accounts, had a better economy status than Imperial Russia.

I think the 3+ billion population makes up for the imploded economy. You probably cant beat a 2.5bil country with a powerful economy, but you probably easily beat my 29 million population powerhouse economy.