Riots in Centralis

[GeneralTacticus]

OOC: Two things should be noted. Firstly, there were no refugees into any Apolyton Axis nations; the only one bordering Centralis at all is New Griffith, and that border is heavily fortified and mountainous enough that the communists never tried to take it, and no-one had to cross it any any case. Secondly, regardless of what our regional Nazi alliance thinks of us, there would be no point in closing the borders, as they are already closed and have been for many years.

[Mr. President]

Military units in western Karakas near New Griffith have been placed on alert. President Adams, CEO of WMD Inc., has issued a communique to Axis ambassadors in Karakas City urging their governments to avoid confrontation.

[Sheep]

I think personally you are jumping the gun. We are National Socialists not these so called racist Nazis. Also futhermore we do not seek to harm other nations. However there are a few communist refugees from Centralis that got through to New Griffith and then onto Greater Method from there. We would be happy to return them to you if it is desirable.

We once again seek no harm to anyone in this region, except perhaps the Assimilation Corp and their attempts to take this region over.

BTW, Centralis if you want my vote for the United Nations I would be happy to give it you, only problem is you will have to distance your self from Assimilation Corp activites and remove yourself from their alliance.

[GeneralTacticus]

Originally posted by Sheep
I think personally you are jumping the gun. We are National Socialists not these so called racist Nazis.

Maybe you should pick up a dictionary some time and look up a few of the terms you used. National Socialism is Nazism, for one thing, as a matter of definition; claiming otherwise would be similar to claiming that you can be a Muslim without believing in Islam.

Also futhermore we do not seek to harm other nations.

Try not to contradict yourself as you just did below. It doesn't do your credibility any good at all.

However there are a few communist refugees from Centralis that got through to New Griffith and then onto Greater Method from there. We would be happy to return them to you if it is desirable.

If they're CPC members who participated in the insurrection, we'd very much like them back - in handcuffs. Otherwise, we don't give a damn - they can come back or they can stay away, though they'll be monitored regardless to ensure they don't engage in terrorism or espionage.

We once again seek no harm to anyone in this region, except perhaps the Assimilation Corp and their attempts to take this region over.

Assimilation Corp consists of a pretty big "anyone", given it's size, and you have never provided a shred of evidence that Assimilation Corp has any desire for regional domination at all.

BTW, Centralis if you want my vote for the United Nations I would be happy to give it you, only problem is you will have to distance your self from Assimilation Corp activites and remove yourself from their alliance.

We aren't interested in your UN endorsement - while it would, objectively, be desirable, we aren't going to expend any effort to get it, and we certainly aren't going to bow to your paranoia regarding Assimilation Corp for it.

[Sheep]

occ: Nazism is diffrent then National Socialism in a few ways. National Socialism calls for a socialist ideal for the nationalistic policies of the government. Nazism is the hatred of Jews and the superiority of the Aryan Race. Either way this is not Earth and never will be so just remember that. National Socialism and hence its racist exponent Nazism is completly diffrent in Sheepsta and other territories then it is in RL Germany.

While we will work with the Centralian government against the CPC and return any CPC fugitives in the Axis territories as desired we will keep our endorsement for want of someone who will ensure the purity of the Apolytoner Region.

[GeneralTacticus]

Originally posted by Sheep
occ: Nazism is diffrent then National Socialism in a few ways. National Socialism calls for a socialist ideal for the nationalistic policies of the government. Nazism is the hatred of Jews and the superiority of the Aryan Race.

Look it up in the dictionary and see if you can find a single one that defines National Socialism as anything other than Nazism. I'd be very interested if you could, because I just tried I couldn't.

Either way this is not Earth and never will be so just remember that. National Socialism and hence its racist exponent Nazism is completly diffrent in Sheepsta and other territories then it is in RL Germany.

I could equally say, since this is not Earth, that I'm implementing a Stalinist system and no-one is allowed to tell me that that's repressive by giving historical examples, since this isn't Earth. Even if the actual history isn't carried over, the political ideas *are*, with all their associated baggage.

EDIT: In any case, if you care to dig through the main NS forums, there are great many 'historical' (in the NS sense) of Nazi nations worse than even their models. I submit, as an example, Iesus Christi and the rest of the region of the Reich.

While we will work with the Centralian government against the CPC and return any CPC fugitives in the Axis territories as desired we will keep our endorsement for want of someone who will ensure the purity of the Apolytoner Region.

That's acceptable to us, even if we don't especially like it (or recognise your legitimacy).

[GeneralTacticus]

Good point. Evidently you bring with you some kind of curse. Begone, foul fiend!

[GeneralTacticus]

Anyway, I probably won't be able to continue this debate tonight, as I have an economics exam tommorrow and I need to study for it. However, I'll be back

[Mr. President]

OOC: I could have sworn we already had this debate.

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/national+socialism

Definition: [n] a form of socialism featuring racism and expansionism

Synonyms: Naziism, Nazism

See Also: socialism, socialist economy

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Indeed we have, but I don't remember where, so I can't bring up any of the arguments we used then.