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  • Military judge panel thingy

    I propose that we have a body that looks at nations, what they have said about their nations (preferably on a specific national thread as well as NS, otherwise, just NS), and compares it to the militaries they have posted.

    If there are inconsistencies, for example, an army consisting of 3% of the population (0.8% being v.militaristic w/ lame economy), a navy consisting of 400 battleships, airforce having 650'000 planes and a population of 100 million, we can PM that person and request they change their post, and failing that, we can publish the inconsistencies, with modified figures for people to use.

    It will serve to prevent nations having gargantuen militaries that are completely disproportionate to the capabilities of that nation, while still allowing those nations to possess unique technology and differences. The other "credit" based system would stifle such innovation.

    It would appear that for such a thing to work, only people with scientific, technical and economic backgrounds should be part of this, as determining militaries for nations requires grounding in these fields.

    As such, I personally feel that three good choices would be Drogue (Economics), UR (has posted some very technically accurate posts) and myself (almost obsessive love of the scientific). The three of us all have well thought out militaries that our nations would be able to sustain.

    However, other people may also have soemthing to bring to this idea, so could all wannabe judges post here or PM me, and tell me what you can bring in respect to the three required fields. After that, I shall make a poll of all serious applications (i.e. not lay people and not disproportionate military), and the three people with the most votes will become the first judges.
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  • #2
    I would be putting myself forward as a judge on economics (You'd need a Free Marketer to balance Drogue's socialism at least. ^^; ). I don't think we should limit ourselves to one judge for any section either, just so no one can possibily claim the judge was biased against him.

    In any case, I suppose you need my qualifications? 2nd year student of International Business at the Queensland University of Technology, with a specialty in the Japanese Language, and with a bias towards Politics, Ethics, and Economics subjets (Simply because they're far more interesting to me than more dry subjects such as Export Management, International Currency Markets, etc)
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    • #3
      Ok, fair enough, perhaps a max of 4 or 5?

      I dont want it to get too big, because of practical concerns, too many people will probably get too cumbersome. We'll see how it goes with regards to people applying here on this thread, I'll give it more consideration if there are many serious applicants.

      Theres always the possibility of electing new judges every few months or so.
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      • #4
        Archaic: I am no socialist. I am firmly a Free Market espouser. Although I'm no Monetarist, I am no Keynesian either. I just want environmental concerns shown too.

        I agree with having Archaic as a Judge, but I think we should have a panel of 5 (majority rule of 3 needed) and that we should vote from all who apply. We need at least 1 economic and 1 technical people, but that will happen with 5 judges.

        I agree with elijah and UR too.
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        • #5
          Well I need UR to post here or PM me to confirm, so I can add to the poll, which I'll do on Saturday.

          Thus far, its myself, Archaic, and I presume Drogue?
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          • #6
            This is interesting idea. I know elijah thinks that my millitary is overstated. As far as men that I have in I dont think so, but in terms of tank I do have too many. Jackson is coming up with a new tank and will sell off the old ones and replace them with new ones but not so many though. Also if you need more judges and no one else steps foward I would like to be one.
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            • #7
              I wont speak for the project before its members are elected, but when that does happen, and looking at your nations, the modifications we propose will not be that severe, but we shall give that matter closer inspection.

              Upon your military changing to a reasonable level (I believe that posting a "markscheme" set of standards for militaries would be a good idea as the first thing we do), then you will be eligible for election to this position and would surely make a welcome addition.
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              • #8
                (ooc for some reason it wont let me edit, the servers seem to be running rather slow, so I cant tack this bit on /occ)

                If you wish, PM me about it, giving stats about your nation (population, economy and tax rate), and I can give you a rough and dirty guide to your a reasonable military.

                I'm making the poll on Saturday, so if you catch me before then, and then make the modifications, you can run in the election.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by elijah
                  Well I need UR to post here or PM me to confirm, so I can add to the poll, which I'll do on Saturday.

                  Thus far, its myself, Archaic, and I presume Drogue?
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                  Yeah, I am willing to be part of the panel. Since I am a Keynesian, I get to balance out the two Free Marketers somewhat.
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                  • #10
                    Just letting you now if Archaic is a judge, I will either ask for judge status myself, or disregard him in all respects. This is due to a bias I feel will be there.

                    I am a socialist so I put myself forward as a economic judge. As for my credintials (as Archaic gave his) I hold a Bachelor of International Relations and a Bachelor of Communications majoring in not only in economics, but also journalism. I am currently finnishing a Masters in International Relations due to finnish in two weeks. (Of course I am young for this, but I finnished school two and a half years earlier than normal). My GPA was an average 6.015, which is on a scale on 7.

                    Of course with limited time due to me finnishing my masters, this is why I seem to rush my posts. Also without the aid of spell checking my atroucuios typing makes the spelling suffer. Hell but I suppose Arahic wont be calling me an idiot or dumb anymore.

                    Sorry mate, like I said be careful what you say to others and not everything is what it seems.
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                    • #11
                      I'm going to call you for bull**** on that one Sheep. Assuming you finished school 2 1/2 years early, that means you've had at most 4 years in University. (Your birthdate's in your profile. It killed your arguement.) Even if you went unit overloads for the whole time, a duel degree in what you listed (Which is an Arts degree, not a Business degree, and so while you could have done some business subjects like politics, etc, an economics subject would've been outside your standard units, and therefore an elective, not actually part of your main course) takes 3 years at the quickest pace. A Masters by coursework is not completed in a single year either.

                      And of course, this is Griffith you're going to. A 7 there's barely worth a 4 at QUT, given the massive gap between the abilities of the business faculties. Here's a tip, look at your textbooks for the business subjects. Half of them would've been written by the lecturers I study under.

                      As for being careful with what you say to others......you have no idea how ironic that statement is. A wind of change is blowing Sheep, and from tonight, you are going to get quite the shock. For one who supposedly has all those degrees, it's a bit pathetic that I could be such a better diplomat than you, and get the court on side to make legal the coalition blockade.
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                      • #12
                        On the country. Most of my 'units' called courses at Griffith are economical or political based. I have been doing eight courses twice the needed level for two years. I am nearing completion of my masters. Of course QUT is a better university, but it full of stuck up *****es and snobs. I feel sorry for you having to go with those frigid wastes.

                        Anyway, the reason I chose to go to Griffith, was because not only has both my mother and father attended there, it also offerefd the best scholarship. My masters is a thesis based masters, that if I want too could lead straight to phD studies.

                        Although I may take a year off see the world, do some work so I can earn a bit of spendings, and generally have fun. Thats the diffrence about you and me. I am smart, don;t advertise it and don;t really need too. Meanwhile I am having fun coasting through uni (probs could do a lot better if I actually tried) and running amok. You, I bet apart from the computer time, you don;t actually leave the books.

                        Have you ever though I am playing a character as Field Marshall Dunning and that I feel rp is supposed to be played charactefully. Perhaps I could be somewhat more diplomatic, but why? I am a dictatorial regime which does not get along with you. We don;t declare war straight out but don;t love you either.

                        I fail to see where you sould get the court to side with you. However I will congratulate you if you can.

                        If I may use IR terminology for a second. Youyr governments are always far-right based, cpaitlaist regimes based on the theory of realism. In other words 'might is the only acto in the international arena, and if I am stronger than you you have to do what I say'

                        My current regime in Sheepsta is leftist. anti-coporate, co-operative on most matters. I base myself on the theories of internationalism, globalism and interdependence. My general belief while bit left-field is that sovereignty in the real world will not last for more than another century or two. Globalisation already is passing from purely economic terms to political, cultural and other affects.

                        Now this is not to say I agree with it or not, this is what I feel will happen. Sheepsta is a nation based on the fact that the first pirotiy is to feed the nation and to defend it. Sheepsta has been overrun by enemies, invaded or subjugated to humilation by its neighbours most nobtabl Alecrast for too many times, and generally too self-respecting to let it happen to them again.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Archaic
                          I'm going to call you for bull**** on that one Sheep. Assuming you finished school 2 1/2 years early, that means you've had at most 4 years in University. (Your birthdate's in your profile. It killed your arguement.)
                          My brithdat is 24th August 1983.

                          I was supposed to finnish school at the end of 2000 as with Queensland Education laws.

                          I finished June 1998, when I should of really been in id year 10.

                          I went straight to uni on a paid scholorship (why I went to Griffith as I aint rich). Did 4 subjects a semester for my first two semesters. 80CP. Then did 8 a semester for my next four semesters. 320CP. This makes 400 CP. Did a summer semester to make up the last 20CP. This takes me through to June 2001.

                          Took a year off went to Eastern Europe, Prague actually, and had fun with the 'locals' Man those women are the bomb. So thats June last year.

                          Did my year long thesis based masters for the last year and due to complete it in about two to three weeks.

                          It works out trust me.
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                          • #14
                            No Australia University allows any student to do 8 Units a semester Sheep. 5 is the maximum overload. If you expect us to believe you're doing that many units, you'll need to provide an academic transcript. It'd be on your online account details with the Uni.
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                            • #15
                              I wont do that. Mainly because that is personal information and disclosing this is not advisable. Same as you not disclosing your transcripts or say phone bills, or when you lost your viginity.

                              If 5 is the maximum then maybe you should talk to my friends. At least five people I know of do more. My mother did 8 a semester throughout her course. My father did 6. You obviously either have the wqrong information or its advisable only.

                              I do know you have to get persmission to go over 5. But I also know that it aint the absolute maximum mate.
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