Confrontation in Eastern Apolyton!

[Jamski]

I'd be quite happy to join a panel with Googlie and ColdWizard. I'll also promise not to get any "roleplay revenge" on Sheep or Archaic - I'm not one to hold a grudge, as anyone whos played my MSN D&D knows, I even roll the dice fairly I won't stand for any God modding, I'll tell you all now, and my nation is completely uninvolved.

-Jam

[Jamski]

Originally posted by Archaic
I recognise you. You're that person who decided to help Sheep in that NES where he got his butt kicked when Russia turned on him. Well, your nation's tiny compared to the players in this, so it makes no difference.

Now he's getting his butt kicked in that NES by me and Giovanni as a punishment for supporting Sheep

-Jam

[Archaic]

Originally posted by Sheep
You having a go at my new stats are you. None of them exceed 5.1% most under 5% of the population.

Had to find the thread first so I could post the link.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13017

Yes, I'm having a go at your new stats. Didn't you read it, or did you only skim read? 5% is insane. No nation could realistically support it without crippling their economy.

[Jamski]

If people are happy to crush industry and have masses of poorly equipped troops. Look at Germany 1944, or Russia 1942 - troop numbers were too high for industry to support them. In the case of Russia this was OK in the short term owning to the extremly large population as a whole. Germany however couldn't take the pace and collapsed. 70 million Germans managed to have nearly 2 million troops in the field, including children and old men at the end. If I am allowed as a judge you can conscript as much as you like - whether or not it will actually help is debatable.

-Jam

[Whaleboy]

The LF is moving a large naval force consisting of 10 aircraft carriers (with a full deployment of the air force), 5 superbattleships, 10 advanced battleships, 30 heavy cruisers, 50 light cruisers, 70 destroyers, 100 frigates, 120 gunboats, 30 hunter/killer subs and 5 "boomer" missile subs, in three formations to the troubled zone, officially, on "exercises".

They are being deployed in an arc to cover Alecrast and Centralis, with reinforcements in the straights between those two nations, with more ships on the way. The third formation, to the East of the second fleet, and south east of Alecrast, will serve to cut off any attempt at a flanking maneuvre.

The Libertarian Federation will not tolerate a pre-emtive strike on one of its allies. Our navy, under the protection of Alecrast, will defend against any naval attack, and have the capability to defend against air-attacks, and to shoot down any missiles directed at either us, or the nations we are protecting. While there is no war, our forces are on exercise and represent no threat to anyone.

Meantime, in all of the LF nations, the military has been recalled from other arenas, including Elethar, except in assisting JRLIM, and have been placed on heightened alert at home.

We repeat that our forces are not involved in this conflict at this stage, and that our alliance with Alecrast is only to defend that nation shuold it be attacked.

We warn ALL nations against making pre-emptive strikes, hopefully our superior forces in the region will serve as a deterrent.

Meantime our Marley-class shuttles are prepared to shoot down any spy, missile or laser satellites should a war occur, and are capable of bombing, and of providing further anti-aircraft and anti-missile support, from hundreds of miles up.

[Whaleboy]

ooc: I shall assume my suggested figures on the other thread for Sheepsta's military, to be the forces in the region that I shall RP with. No disrespect intended, but the original posted figures are way too unrealistic, mine are only average (0.3% of population, 8.5% of tax spending), but then, I do have over 1.8 billion people ).

[emu]

Originally posted by Jamski


Now he's getting his butt kicked in that NES by me and Giovanni as a punishment for supporting Sheep

-Jam

yeah right, reason i helped him was to get land

[Archaic]

Some interesting things off another regional board.....

4 days ago
The Most Serene Republic of Fanaticus
This nation has been determined to be in breach of UN rules, which allow you to only have one nation in the UN at any given time. It has thus been ejected and barred from re-joining.

Please note this is the most lenient punishment. Further breaches will be punished with nuclear strikes against all offending nations, destroying them.

If you wish to appeal this decision, please contact the game moderators via the Help page.

6 hours ago
The Sultanate of Sheep Fanatica
Can I ask you all a favour. I am having a huge problem in Apolyton with my nation there. I am about to be involved in a nuclear war. The Armed Republic of Sheepsta is looking for allies yto join the Treaty of Mt. Gravatt.

I ask you all to post on Apolyton's web forums and declare your intention to back the government of Field Marshall Dunning.

I suppose here that I should reiterate what has been stated to many people. Alecrast and its allies have no intention of flinging Nukes around. If it becomes a Nuclear War, it will be because Sheepsta and its deluded allies are throwing them.

[emu]

man that sucks

[Archaic]

That you got kicked out of the UN for breaches of the game rules? Yes, I imagine it does.

[Whaleboy]

Game rules? Whats going on?

[Whaleboy]

Any and all nukes fired by any party (thankyou Archaic for clarifying that you will not fire nukes), will be shot down as a first priority by Marijuanian naval and air forces, who are equipped and inclined to do so. This goes for all missiles, airplanes and bombers, but those with elevated gamma-ray emmisions (thus containing nukes) will be given top priority.

If Sheepsta engages in any military strike against Alecrast or any of her allies, we shall engage Sheepsta, and considering the Field Marshalls military experience, he knows that he does not want to make an enemy of the LF. All satellites, nuke missile batteries (land, ship, sub and air based) have been placed on high alert following the possibility of this conflict going nuclear. I repeat, all nuclear attacks WILL be neutralised by our forces.

[Mr. President]

I don't see any way how there's not gonna be god-modding of military stats.

Wait, I see one way. It's the Warhammer 40,000 / Medieval: Total War system. Each faction gets a certain number of points based on its economy, population, and whatnot. Military units and divisions are given a points rating, and each faction takes units the total of whose points values are equal to or less than the total points assigned to them.

I found some other region's web page where they use a system like this.

Would that work, in our professional opinions?

[Whaleboy]

Hopefully Sheep will agree with my recommendations on the other thread, I was realistic but generous in my analysis, with the possibility of being more generous, i.e, my military is 0.3% of population, in my example, his was 0.5%, it could reasonably be up to 1%.

[Mr. President]

Well, if history is anything to go by, when people design their own military statistics, they tend to err on the side of "gigantic" and "superpowerish". Read the rest of that thread. There's enough armed force in Apolyton for two or three planets.

Perhaps that's what we need Jamski / Googlie / Drogue / whoever else for. 'Cause no war here is ever gonna be fair in that sense.