GGS Project Overview

[dervish]

I like this book called "Guns, Germs and Steel" and in fact I managed to read few pages of it. I think it's good that you are trying to bring these ideas from the book to the game. Frankly speaking that's exactly what I thought when I first read this book. I thought to myself - WOW!!! It would be nice if some of these concepts and ideas were incorparated to the game!!!! But, then, all of a sudden, I thought, hey, there is no way, it can't be that I am the only one with brains to read this book.

I love this idea of the book and I love this idea in the game!!

[Kal-el]

Is anyone still working on this project?

I am in the process of reading the book and have tried to incorporate as much of Diamonds theories as I could into my mod, but there is only so much that can be done given the limited parameters of Civ3. I would love to a full blown game based soley on his theories.

Hope you guys haven't given up.

[Leland]

1. The project is more or less dead, somebody should just make it official.
   
2. It wasn't going to be that much based on the book anyway, because at least I think that it would've made a terribly boring game.

[Jon Shafer]

Alas, it seems that no one has the time, motiviation, or both to continue.

[Maniac]

Will we send a PM to MarkG to request a deletion/archivation of this forum?

[Nath]

First, we should probably save all the Docs and main threads etc. in case one of us continues some day.

I've learnt a fair bit of coding since this project died, and though I'll be busier than usual over the next six or seven months, I might do some game-building after that. Anyone mind if I use some ideas from GGS?

[VetLegion]

no Nath, I dont think anyone will mind

be sure to let us all know what/how you are doing!

damn even posting in this empty forum makes me sad

echo!

**echo**

[Maniac]

Hmm. Did I hear a voice in these empty ruins???

[CapTVK]

Nope, just the echo of a passerby muttering: "all that effort and enthusiasm, all wasted....".

Don't feel bad about it, most open source community projects don't make it further than a scourceforge page. Only a few projects that have a dedicated core and reach reach critical mass will remain in the end. The sad truth is that a lot of early effort and enthusiasm that went into GGS could have been spent on a more durable projects like Freeciv or CoC. You could have chosen to learn the ropes in the Freeciv project. Yet you chose to reinvent the wheel from scratch. Why?

[Rasbelin]

And Freeciv isn't yet the ultimate symbol of creativity in open source game development.

[CapTVK]

Originally posted by Rasbelin
And Freeciv isn't yet the ultimate symbol of creativity in open source game development.

Nope, that title goes to Liquid Wars


Freeciv is just the symbol of dedication, willpower, perseverance, labour and industry.

[Leland]

Originally posted by CapTVK
You could have chosen to learn the ropes in the Freeciv project. Yet you chose to reinvent the wheel from scratch. Why?

We figured that reinventing the wheel might be a fun thing to do. Then the whole thing fell apart from lack of cohesive "vision" and focus. Anyway, in the beginning it was discussed that we should've used freeciv codebase as much as possible, but those ideas faded away when it was realized that to do something really revolutionary instead of evolutionary freeciv wouldn't cut it. And because the developers (me included) were more fascinated daydreaming about possibilities and haggling over details than doing anything else. Not that I regret much... I derive great joy in haggling over details... just that it was bad for the project.

[Jon Shafer]

Too many ideas and not enough action.

[Rasbelin]

Well, GGS was a great idea and project, but IMO it wasn't enough organised and you should have been trying to get the coding started as it seem to have failed there.

Right now there's Freeciv, Clash of Civilizations, C-evo and CivQuest still out there, so we have quite many open source or freeware TBS empire building strategy games under development. However GGS would have been a nice add-on to this group.

[Nath]

I am still thinking of continuing this project in March or April. Anyone else interested?