1st Apolyton CtP2 Tournament: 23 April - 23 May 2002

[Immortal Wombat]

game ends at 2300AD. Person with the highest score wins. Cop out victory

[Martin Gühmann]

IW is right for an unmodded game like the tourny game. But of course you can mod the end year of the game like most things in CTP2. Therefore in ApolytonPack and in MedPack2 the end year is 2200 AD of course you will get an early warning in 2200 AD in an unmodded game and in 2100 AD in MedPack and ApolytonPack. I don't know the end year in Cradle and WaW, as far as I know Hex created a lot of victory options I guess with different ending game dates. In GoodMod for the CityMod2 option it is still 2300 AD and I set it back for the Apolyton Pack option to 2300 AD for GoodMod for MedPack2 I left it as it is in MedPack2.

-Martin

[mnbryan37]

Help

I am an advid Ctp2 player, but a real novice with the Internet. I downloaded the Ctp2 tournament game into my saved games file, but do not know how to open it. Also, if I finish it by May 16th, how to I go about sending it in. Could someone educate me?

Thanks much, Bill Bryan, mnbryan37@yahoo.com

[Andyinkuwait]

Open CTPII as normal, click on load game, there should be a folder (ferdi I think it is called) open this and click on the only file in it. ...... off you go. If this doesn't work copy and paste your downloaded file into the Ferdi folder in your saved games file....then as above...make sure you are using CTPII with the activision patch but no mods.

Andy in Kuwait

[Locutus]

For those interested, I finished my game as well: Diplomatic Victory in 1335 AD. If I have more time later I might try to continue this game for a military conquest and see if I can beat francois with his Bloodlust Victory in 1882 AD... Since I'm the organiser of this feature I don't think my score should count in the official ranking but it's still fun to unofficially participate and compare my result with that of others.

Francois,
Great, congrats on being the very first person ever to complete an Apolyton CtP2 Tournament!

The savegame you attached was just fine, a savegame of right before you actually accomplished your victory. All I had to do was open the game and unload some marines into the last Dutch stronghold Next time though, could you name the last savegame (as well as the zip file you attach to this thread) after your forum login, so savegame "francois" and zip file "francois.zip", this will save me a lot of trouble.

Also, I would like to ask everyone to also mention what kind of victory you accomplished (Diplomatic, Scientific/Gaia, Conquest, Endyear), to avoid misunderstandings (but in this case it was pretty obvious so it was no problem).

Dean,
When you're in such a good position, why wait for the game to finish on it's own? If you have peace with everyone, you could try to get an Alliance with everyone and get a Diplomatic Victory? Or try to accomplish the Scientific Victory by building the Gaia Controller? Your choice of course but just clicking next turn all the time seems a little boring to me (although it will probably ensure a very high score)...

Bill,
The savegame you downloaded is 'zipped', it's stored in a special (compressed) format to make it smaller and thus faster to download. In order to be able to play you need to 'unzip' it. I think some Windows versions have an unzip tool by default. If this is the case, I think you should be able to double-click the file in Explorer and it will do so. If this doesn't work, you should download a program like WinZip from a place like www.downloads.com, you can get a version here. Download and install a program like that and the above trick of double-clicking a file in Explorer should work.

When you want to upload the savegame, you'll have to 'zip' it yourself. With WinZip, you can simply right-click the file in Explorer and select the option 'Add to Zip'. Then, when you press the 'Post Reply' button on this thread, a screen will come up with a number of fields. Right above the 'Submit Reply' button there is an 'Attach file' option. Press the 'Browse...' button and select your file. After writing your reply (which, as mentioned above, should at least mention the type of victory that you accomplished) and hitting the 'Submit Reply' button, your reply will be posted with the zipfile attached to it, as in francois's last post.

[Dale]

French? What French?

I got no problems with the French. They started annoying me early on, declared war, my hoplites 'n archers trecked labouriously over the glacier and destroyed him.

[Maquiladora]

Originally posted by Locutus
For those interested, I finished my game as well: Diplomatic Victory in 1335 AD. If I have more time later I might try to continue this game for a military conquest and see if I can beat francois with his Bloodlust Victory in 1882 AD... Since I'm the organiser of this feature I don't think my score should count in the official ranking but it's still fun to unofficially participate and compare my result with that of others.

Just out of interest, how many nations were left besides yourself after your victory?
And can i see your game after the tournament?

And erm i dont think anyone asked but did you check the map layout before you decided this was the tournament game? Or as i presume you just took the first one that came out? Not that ive got a problem with the layout at all, just wondering. heh

[Locutus]

Dale, I think you posted that in the wrong thread... But I agree, the French were history pretty soon in my game as well...

Maquiladora,
There were 3 nations left (which is somewhat unusual since I usually only conquer 1, at most 2 opponents when I go for diplo victory): the Dutch (very weak), English (mediorce) and Maya (relatively strong). I just conquered all the Aggressive Imperialists because they don't listen to diplomacy anyway

You don't have to wait until the end of the tournament as far as I'm concerned. Feel free to download the file I attached to my previous post and have a look at it anytime you want

For this first Tournament I took the first randomly generated map I got (in part so it wouldn't spoil the surprise for myself either) and only changed the participating nations via the cheat menu (without revealing the map, so I had no idea how the distribution among the various continents would be). In future Tournaments I might mess around more with the map and stuff, we'll see about that...

[francois]

It was really hard for me to do,but I had to kill my fellow French right away
Francois

[mnbryan37]

Thanks

Thanks for the help in getting my downloaded game up and running. I have Windows XP which doesn't seem to have WinZip included. After I un-zip'd I still couldn't get it to play. I had to create an empty Ferdiand game folder, and then move the Colinazation file into that folder before it would play.

I also had the garbage message problem that Centrifuge had, but your fix worked on that, so I'm now up and running.

[DeanToth]

Hi everyone:
I've never played to a diplomatic victory.... You have to have a peace treaty with everyone, but the manual says you must keep it for a minimum amount of time.. Can anyone tell me what this minimum time is? The manual is scant.

Oh, and yes, clicking the "next turn" button over and over was not only tedious & boring, but also unsatisfying once I reached 2300AD for the first time. I was doing it as an experiment. (ps- how can this earn me a higher score as you said, Locutus?) However I am now near to 2300 in the tourny game and would like to know if I've mismanaged my time so severely that I can't win a diplomatic victory.

And ... can anyone tell me what scoring bonuses you gain from the various victories? I don't see anything in the manual.

My last gameplay question is: in looking at the scoring panel, I see an item called "games in progress" which of course always says "1" game... what does this mean? How can I have more that ONE game during a game? (actually it says 1x0 which means I get 0 points for each game.... so what would it matter anyway???? great confusion)



Locutus:
(off-topic blabbering follows)

I must take the time to say I really like the forum "engine" you guys use! Following are some but not all of the nerdy/technical reasons I love this forum:

- You can see a review of all previous posts while you type a response
- These previous posts are in REVERSE order (very nice)
- One can attach files to posts
- You can even see how many times someone has downloaded the attachment
- The choices one has of individually replying to older posts (including the "reply with quote" and "email directly")
- RTF/HTML text ability
- The alternating light/dark grey color of sequential posts for contrast and visual clarity
- and finally, I ESPECIALLY love the way a thread will email me when another post has appeared!

As a participant in many online forums, I can vouch for the value of that last one... how often have you posted in an interesting forum only to forget to re-visit it later to see who's responded... or even worse, you forget WHICH thread you've posted in (especially when you post in many threads).

Just wanted to sing my praises to this forum. And if you could pass my compliments to any other administrators, that would be nice.

deantoth@hotmail.com

[DeanToth]

Originally posted by Solver
Bah... if the tournament used a mod, I'd give it a go, but this way, no way. The default AI is very easy even on Impossible, and here you can just overwhelm it easily. Moreover, only 6 enemies.

Sorry guys .

In the unmodded game, is it not true that LESS enemies equal HARDER enemies? I thought that, due to AI weaknesses, when you have many enemies, they always war with each other and keep each other down. But with fewer enemy AI's in play, they take longer to "find" each other and thus have developed higher scientific advances (at least in the huge maps)

Maybe all these factors cancel out in the long run?? I haven't experimented exhaustively. Any insights from ye forum participants?

[Maquiladora]

I've never played to a diplomatic victory.... You have to have a peace treaty with everyone, but the manual says you must keep it for a minimum amount of time.. Can anyone tell me what this minimum time is? The manual is scant.

You only have to get every civ to sign an alliance to you. There isnt any period of time you have to keep it for. Lemme have a look in manuel i cant remember if it said that in mine. lol but well you only have to get em to sign the alliance then thats it.

edit- i cocked the quotation up

[DeanToth]

cocked the quotation up?

i have no idea what you mean. Put extra blank lines in the text?


Anyway, thanks for the info. I'm gonna try a diplo-victory since I'm out of time for anything else...

Can anyone supply any info on my other queries?


Good luck in the tourny, all.

[DeanToth]

Originally posted by Maquiladora
Lemme have a look in manuel i cant remember if it said that in mine. lol but well you only have to get em to sign the alliance then thats it.

Oh Yeah, I forgot to clarify:

the manual does only say you need alliances, but the Great Library's victory description says you need to keep it for a minimum number of turns... just wondering if this is true (or maybe just another editing mistake in the library)