The Size 60 Barrier

[Skeeve]

quote: Originally posted by hexagonian on 03-14-2001 03:25 PM Did either of you go into the citysize.txt files and make any changes in there?

No, not yet at least. I have already verified that you can achieve a size 70 city without changing those files, and now I'm currently checking out the changes I mentioned above.

I'll post my results here when done.

Edit: Thanks Hannibal for those stats. I imagine that a size 100+ city will probably need close to 69 squares. (Just to keep the population fed)

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My reach exceeds my grasp!
[This message has been edited by Skeeve (edited March 15, 2001).]

[dennis_caver]

Nope - not yet

[Skeeve]

I have some Preliminary Results:

I am in the year 2225 on Impossible with the changes I listed above.
However... disappointment. Something is seriously wrong.
My cities have stopped growing at exactly 61.
I'm not sure what went wrong here, because in my previous test I was able to achieve a population of 70.

I think the problem is that I was playing around with too many parameters, and I changed something I shouldn't have.

Oh well, back to the drawing board I guess.

When I do this again, I'm not playing on Impossible. It's not that it's too hard, it's just too stressful for experimenting. One actually has to think a little to get ahead. (As opposed to being able to win while brain-dead on other levels).


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My reach exceeds my grasp!

[Skeeve]

Okay... now I'm totally confused.

I started a brand new game with only one change: I added the line to the Hospital improvement to give +15 city maximum.

However, My cities stopped growing at 61! Doh!... they should have reached 75. Also, overcrowding was not a problem. I'm stumped. I don't know why it worked once and now it doesn't.

Oh Well, I can't be bothered with this problem until the succession game is over. If anyone out there is trying to beat the Size 60 Barrier, please share! As for me, I'm on hiatus. *Skeeve dons sunglasses and takes in some rays*

- Skeeve

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My reach exceeds my grasp!

[Jonny]

Skeeve:

I tried the same changes to the buildings, but my cities also stopped growing at 61. I have no idea how to fix this, but I am trying. See you at the succession game.

Jonny

[Martin Gühmann]

I had the same problem but I edited the citysizeX.txt's. Every citysizeX.txt referres to a different level of difficuilty. Now here is an example:

CITYSIZE_ZERO {
Population 0
SquaredRadius 0
IntRadius 0
MaxWorkers 0
GrowthRate 75
MinGrowthRate 2500
MaxSurplusFood 250
BaseOvercrowding 4
BaseMaxPop 18
VisionRadius 1.414
}

CITYSIZE_ONE {
Population 6
SquaredRadius 2
IntRadius 1
MaxWorkers 6
GrowthRate 75
MinGrowthRate 2500
MaxSurplusFood 250
BaseOvercrowding 4
BaseMaxPop 18
VisionRadius 1.414
}

CITYSIZE_TWO {
Population 18
SquaredRadius 5
IntRadius 2
MaxWorkers 18
GrowthRate 75
MinGrowthRate 5000
MaxSurplusFood 500
BaseOvercrowding 4
BaseMaxPop 18
VisionRadius 2.236
}

CITYSIZE_THREE {
Population 32
SquaredRadius 13
IntRadius 3
MaxWorkers 32
GrowthRate 75
MinGrowthRate 7500
MaxSurplusFood 750
BaseOvercrowding 4
BaseMaxPop 32
VisionRadius 3.0
}

CITYSIZE_FOUR {
Population 46
SquaredRadius 17
IntRadius 4
MaxWorkers 46
GrowthRate 75
MinGrowthRate 10000
MaxSurplusFood 1000
BaseOvercrowding 4
BaseMaxPop 46
VisionRadius 3.4
}

CITYSIZE_FIVE {
Population 60
SquaredRadius 20
IntRadius 4
MaxWorkers 60
GrowthRate 75
MinGrowthRate 15000
MaxSurplusFood 150000
BaseOvercrowding 900
BaseMaxPop 999
VisionRadius 3.7
}

CITYSIZE_SIX {
Population 999
SquaredRadius 20
IntRadius 4
MaxWorkers 60
GrowthRate 75
MinGrowthRate 20000
MaxSurplusFood 200000
BaseOvercrowding 900
BaseMaxPop 999
VisionRadius 4.472
}

These modifications should allow my cities to grow til 999 without problems of overcrowding. The last CITYSIZE_xxxx defines the maximum population size of a city. But 999 is not the maximum, because I was also be able to create cities over 1000 by cheat editor. I just modified these lines in the scenarioeditor.ldl:

Pop:CTP2_SPINNER {
# MDS 08/2000
# int xpix 70
# int ypix 112
int xpix 58
int ypix 63
int widthpix 90
int minxval 0
int maxxval 20000
int incxval 1
int xval 1
string statustext "str_SE_PopSpinner"
string tipwindow "str_SE_PopSpinner"
}
Now I am able to create cities with a size of 20000 instead of 200.

-Martin