What Government would YOU support?

[David Murray]

MrFun is totally right in his summarization of the Southern states at that time...they were characterized by terror, burnings and lynchings by white-hooded kooks and police, official apartheid and racial tyranny...anyone who denies that fact is an ignorant revisionist who smears the memory of all those decent, honest black people who were brutally murdered at the time.

[David Murray]

quote: Originally posted by David Murray on 02-03-2001 04:40 AM MrFun is totally right in his summarization of the Southern states at that time...they were characterized by terror, burnings and lynchings by white-hooded kooks and police, official apartheid and racial tyranny...anyone who denies that fact is an ignorant revisionist who smears the memory of all those decent, honest black people who were brutally murdered at the time.

I think I should point out that an "ignorant revisionist" is another way of saying a "Republican".

lol

[MrFun]

I would also like to add to my defense: my major I'm studying for is BA in History, and minor in Writing.

And of course, I have done independent reading on pre-Civil War, Civil War and Reconstruction in the United States. The Ku Klux Klan was founded as a political terrorist organization by Confederate veterans to ensure the revival of the dominance of Democrats in the South.

Before the 1940s, the Democrats was the party of white supremacy while the Republican party was founded on racial idealism until Republicans betrayed the ghost of Lincoln.

And to understand the problems of gaining an earlier Union victory, you need to read about the Union generals and Confederate generals. It was not because the Confederate forces were superior - it was due to Union generals, before Grant, who put their personal ambitions ahead of destroying the Confederate army. Lee was indeed a great Confederate general, and Grant was an excellent Union general.

[Steve5304]

Yea but spreading such rumours about my Brave Sourthern Relatives Angers me. One marched and survived Picketts Charge.And another died at the Battle of Shiloh. I am proud of my Heritage and im proud of them !


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[MrFun]

I am sorry - I did not intend any personal attacks on any of your relatives.

I have read quite a bit material on this era, and based on that material one can conclude that the South fought to preserve slavery - not state rights.

[David Murray]

quote: Originally posted by Steve5304 on 02-03-2001 07:20 PM Yea but spreading such rumours about my Brave Sourthern Relatives Angers me. One marched and survived Picketts Charge.And another died at the Battle of Shiloh. I am proud of my Heritage and im proud of them ! --------------- 'the south will rise again'

The truth hurts, boy.

And these aren't rumours, they're truths.

BTW it's nice to see you're living in the past. You can stay there for all I care; I don't want any redneck hillbillies marching on DC and telling me how great the old southern racists were.

[MrFun]

Um David - we don't need to hurl insults. True, Steve started the insults, but let's not continue the insults. So far, I have stated facts based on the material I have read.

But anyway, this was a topic that has gotten more off the original subject of this post. Since I started this topic, I would like everyone to end this topic - no more posts on the history of the Southern states please.

[Sean]

You would do well to remember that not all of us in this forum are Americans. As such, the constent bleating about the repubicrats and the North vs South, has fast become tedious. Either talk about civ governments or shut up.

[David Murray]

Okay, let's end it.

Although I know this is the wrong place and everything, I still get my back up from people telling me to shut up when they are not forced to read this topic.

But I agree. If any of you want to debate politics, I recommend www.turnleft.com/interactive.html

[MrFun]

Sean and David - thanks for agreeing with me.

[Alpha Wolf]

cant we all just git along?????

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History is written by the victor.

[Steve5304]

hey david how old are you?

Redneck? i live in Racine wisconsin............My relatives are from the south. I dont listen to pointless Babbling from people like you. Confedrates were Heroes........Tho the war was lost...or was it? The Old Political party of the south has taken over American Politics? Southernern states through out reconstruction Legislation in 1974. In the South We have State holidays Celebrating the Rise of the south. We Call ourselves Confedrates.....not americans. The Desendents of Slaves are all Trapped in Urban Areas and live like animals,As drawn out bye Democratic President Jefferson Davis in the Marshall Plan .... Just in case the South lost the war.

Spend some time thinkin Murray..Who imposed whos will?
The Southern Democratic Party Became the Democratic Party.........And we made it look like we are Inclusive...to get votes , Notice in 8 years Clinton has done 0 to get them out of the Ghetto.(He needs to keep them in one place so when the time comes to Ship them off or kill them off)

none of these comments are Racist.....But i am still Enraged at David calling me a Redneck.If He can Insult my Heritage , I have no mercy for his.


note to reader: i drink of beer tonight, and Cant stop yapping


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[Steve5304]

Hey Murray............**** YOU


i see no more use for this thread now that its been taken over bye Slack-Jawed Gawkers who stop at nothing to put down other peoples Upbringing.......Even sending them Threatining EMAIL.


do it again and I will ~!?%@ nuke you murray........no kiddin

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[David Murray]

LOL

Lock away your grannies, the hillbilly brigade has managed to get out of the mental hospital.

PS--the South is subjugated and will do as DC tells it, end of story.
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[MrFun]

Here are some facts again from a History major student:

1) the South fought to preserve slavery - not state rights.

2) the South tried to force a fake government in the territory of Kansas through corrupt voting processes by Missourians before the Civil War

3) Southerners burned huamn beings alive after the Civil War through the 1930s

4) blacks are in ghettos due to lack of mobility available to them, poverty, and denial of opportunity

5) the South had a defacto one-party dictatorship based on white supremacy until the 1960s

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