I have been trying different proposals to study the AI's response in diplomacy, so as to learn more about how diplomavy works in ctp2. Unfortunately, I have to admit that I am less and less impressed. I don't necessarily complain about the use of "proposals" instead of a "dialogue". That was a decision by the people who made the game. And, although I prefer the "dialogue system in some ways, I don't think that the "proposal" system is necessarily bad.
However, it seems to me that the the factors that determine when the AI will accept your proposal, are extremelly basic. If your regard is good then it will accept, otherwise, odds are that the AI will turn you down. Shouldn't the AI accept a peace treaty sometimes just because yo are much more powerful eventhough it doesn't like you. I have often offered peace treaty with large sums of gold to a vastly inferior civ, and it still refused after I threatened. Did I use the wrong tone (I used "kind" when I first made the offer)
Could someone enlighten me? Experimenting a little, I purposely offered proposals that were overly generous to see what would happen. To a friendly civ, I offered a peace treaty with 5000 gold, the AI refuses!? I asked for a friendly AI to give the tech "democracy" in exchange I would surrender a city size 10 to him, the AI refuses !? How come the AI refuses such generous offers?
Also the AI never really initiates diplomacy. The only proposals that I have gotten from the AI have been asking for an exchange of maps (boy, have I gotten that one a lot) and asking for a cease-fire. The AI never initiates diplomacy to ask for other stuff. Have others encountered the AI using the other proposals? I haven't!
In summary my 2 observations are:
1) the AI does not respond in a realistic way to my proposals
2) the AI rarely initiates diplomacy and when it does, it does not use any of the choices.
However, it seems to me that the the factors that determine when the AI will accept your proposal, are extremelly basic. If your regard is good then it will accept, otherwise, odds are that the AI will turn you down. Shouldn't the AI accept a peace treaty sometimes just because yo are much more powerful eventhough it doesn't like you. I have often offered peace treaty with large sums of gold to a vastly inferior civ, and it still refused after I threatened. Did I use the wrong tone (I used "kind" when I first made the offer)
Could someone enlighten me? Experimenting a little, I purposely offered proposals that were overly generous to see what would happen. To a friendly civ, I offered a peace treaty with 5000 gold, the AI refuses!? I asked for a friendly AI to give the tech "democracy" in exchange I would surrender a city size 10 to him, the AI refuses !? How come the AI refuses such generous offers?
Also the AI never really initiates diplomacy. The only proposals that I have gotten from the AI have been asking for an exchange of maps (boy, have I gotten that one a lot) and asking for a cease-fire. The AI never initiates diplomacy to ask for other stuff. Have others encountered the AI using the other proposals? I haven't!
In summary my 2 observations are:
1) the AI does not respond in a realistic way to my proposals
2) the AI rarely initiates diplomacy and when it does, it does not use any of the choices.
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