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    A Few Questions

    I bought CtP1 and was less then impressed. So i dont get taken to the cleaners again I'd like some info from ppl who have it.

    Have they added all the orginal wonders back in this ver of civ? (like the pyramids, great library, hover dam, etc)

    Have lawyers been toned down?

    Do we have city control back like the orginal civ2? (micromanagment in each city)

    Any help appreciated

    Harle
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    quote:

    Have they added all the orginal wonders back in this ver of civ? (like the pyramids, great library, hover dam, etc)


    The pyramids are there but they have a different function from the original Civilization wonder. The Great Library is not a wonder but the reference section. No Hoover Dam.
    quote:


    Have lawyers been toned down?


    Not sure, they still stop production in a city for one turn.
    quote:


    Do we have city control back like the orginal civ2? (micromanagment in each city)


    Yes, there is a city screen where you can check on each cities units, specialists and such.

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    • #3
      Until they put all the orginal wonders back in the game like civ1 and 2 had i think ill pass on this. I also dont like the lawyer idea.

      i think they tried to hard and messed with what sid did to much.

      Harle

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      • #4
        Well, you are going to be waiting a long time since CtP2 is NOT a Civ2 upgrade. Thus, all the Civ2 stuff is never going to be put BACK in CtP2.
        Don,
        CtPMaps (Hosted by Apolyton)

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        • #5
          quote:

          Originally posted by Harlequin on 11-19-2000 12:59 AM
          Until they put all the orginal wonders back in the game like civ1 and 2 had i think ill pass on this. I also dont like the lawyer idea.

          i think they tried to hard and messed with what sid did to much.

          Harle
          well, after that comment, and I'm not trying to brag about it, i believe these forums are the best review one could ever ask for. i could never imagine i would read such a comment. diversity in opinions and point of views are always best that one opinion(even two) from an "expert". i actually think i'm not going to post the preview after all...


          hey Harlequin, i have a hunch that civ3 will not have all the civ2 wonders either...

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          • #6
            quote:

            Originally posted by MarkG on 11-19-2000 03:53 AM
            i actually think i'm not going to post the preview after all...


            You are joking aren't you MarkG? ( I know I see the smiley, but just checking...)

            Your daily impressions were a great read, so I plan to keep my PC logged on to Apolyton today until your preview appears!

            JimMac

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            • #7
              quote:

              Originally posted by MarkG on 11-19-2000 03:53 AM
              [QUOTE]Originally posted by Harlequin on 11-19-2000 12:59 AM
              i actually think i'm not going to post the preview after all...


              Its OK to quit posting previews MarkG, BUT...

              Pleeease, as a final act:

              Post as many new pictures of manager-screens, tab-screens and option-screens as you can. Post each tab under its own picture.

              Its another 2-3 looong weeks of waiting for me, and looking at those manager-screens give lots of important info.

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              • #8
                quote:

                Originally posted by JimMac on 11-19-2000 04:22 AM
                Your daily impressions were a great read, so I plan to keep my PC logged on to Apolyton today until your preview appears!
                ok, you got me!

                [This message has been edited by MarkG (edited November 19, 2000).]

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                • #9
                  quote:

                  Originally posted by Ralf on 11-19-2000 04:45 AM
                  Post as many new pictures of manager-screens, tab-screens and option-screens as you can. Post each tab under its own picture.
                  i can probably do that if you can be so nice to "scan" the existing preview pages and give me a list of the managers and tabs i've already posted(with their url's)
                  [This message has been edited by MarkG (edited November 19, 2000).]

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                  • #10
                    quote:

                    Originally posted by skorpion59 on 11-19-2000 02:53 AM
                    Well, you are going to be waiting a long time since CtP2 is NOT a Civ2 upgrade. Thus, all the Civ2 stuff is never going to be put BACK in CtP2.


                    Im well aware of that. I thought CtP1 quite frankly wasnt worth the plastic it was burned on imo. Civ2:ToT was vastly better i feel. Im sorry i dropped money for a game that had such shortcomings. live and learn i suppose.

                    I feel they got away from the formula that made civ great. Why dont they just stop messing with the civ name and call it something orginal. this is a insult to sid and civ 1/2 imo

                    Harle


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                    • #11
                      quote:

                      Originally posted by MarkG on 11-19-2000 03:53 AM
                      Originally posted by Harlequin on 11-19-2000 12:59 AM
                      Until they put all the orginal wonders back in the game like civ1 and 2 had i think ill pass on this. I also dont like the lawyer idea.

                      i think they tried to hard and messed with what sid did to much.

                      Harle
                      well, after that comment, and I'm not trying to brag about it, i believe these forums are the best review one could ever ask for. i could never imagine i would read such a comment. diversity in opinions and point of views are always best that one opinion(even two) from an "expert". i actually think i'm not going to post the preview after all...


                      hey Harlequin, i have a hunch that civ3 will not have all the civ2 wonders either...
                      Who said im a 'expert'? Such statments when one dosent agree with you shows a lack of certain qualities. Ill leave it at that.

                      As for civ3, i cant imagine it'll be vastly diffrent, or lacking, such as CtP was. As sid is back at the helm restoring the good name of civ

                      Harle

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                    • #12
                      quote:

                      Originally posted by Harlequin on 11-19-2000 06:34 AM
                      Who said im a 'expert'? Such statments when one dosent agree with you shows a lack of certain qualities. Ill leave it at that.
                      by "expert", i was referring to reviewers on sites/magazines
                      quote:

                      As for civ3, i cant imagine it'll be vastly diffrent, or lacking, such as CtP was. As sid is back at the helm restoring the good name of civ
                      is being different a fault?

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                      • #13
                        quote:

                        Originally posted by Harlequin on 11-19-2000 06:34 AM
                        Who said im a 'expert'? Such statments when one dosent agree with you shows a lack of certain qualities. Ill leave it at that.

                        As for civ3, i cant imagine it'll be vastly diffrent, or lacking, such as CtP was. As sid is back at the helm restoring the good name of civ

                        Harle



                        Sid is going to restore the good name of civ... by not changing and innovating?? BWAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!

                        But why oh why would you buy a new game that is EXACTLY the same as an old one?? I can't imagine why you would pay for a game with the EXACT same wonders?? If you wanted civ2 with all its excellent wonders(I agree they are good) then why don't you save your cash and just keep playing civ2? Noone is going to accept a civ2 with updated graphics for civ3 anymore.

                        Just to cheer you up a bit, AFAIK the great wall and pyramids are two of the wonders that are back though they have different effects. I don't have the game yet but there's a PDF version of the tech tree for download somewhere on Apolyton.

                        Also I read in another post you can make a unit(like lawyers) unbuildable by anyone by changing a text file. So technically you can remove lawyers from the game altogether!!!

                        There!!! Will you get the game now??

                        Monkey I am proud to be!
                        Trim the sails and roam the sea!
                        Trim the sails and roam the sea!
                        ...Stefu

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                        • #14
                          You don´t want Ctp 2 because it´s not exactle like Civ 2 ? And you thought Ctp1 was a waste of money, what was Civ2:ToT. The ultimate ripoff. Change the graphics to something uglier and create 2 scenarios where all the stuff just basically is given new names but does the same things.

                          CTP 2 has the feeling of "one mor turn" which nogame have had in a long time.

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                          • #15
                            quote:

                            Originally posted by Monkey on 11-19-2000 07:19 AM

                            Sid is going to restore the good name of civ... by not changing and innovating?? BWAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!

                            But why oh why would you buy a new game that is EXACTLY the same as an old one?? I can't imagine why you would pay for a game with the EXACT same wonders?? If you wanted civ2 with all its excellent wonders(I agree they are good) then why don't you save your cash and just keep playing civ2? Noone is going to accept a civ2 with updated graphics for civ3 anymore.

                            Just to cheer you up a bit, AFAIK the great wall and pyramids are two of the wonders that are back though they have different effects. I don't have the game yet but there's a PDF version of the tech tree for download somewhere on Apolyton.

                            Also I read in another post you can make a unit(like lawyers) unbuildable by anyone by changing a text file. So technically you can remove lawyers from the game altogether!!!

                            There!!! Will you get the game now??



                            Please point out where I said sid isnt going to change. What I said was theres a certain formula sid had that the CtP1 ppl screwed with to much. imo CtP1 wasnt worthy of the name civ. In fact it bordered on lame.
                            Most reviewers agreed with me in fact.

                            I am sure sid is going to change and add many things and I look foward to them. But i am also sure the core formula which sid layed the groundwork for isnt going to be changed much if at all. Thats the diffrence between civ1/2 and CtP1.

                            Well ill get a copy of the game and see for myself if CtP2 is worth the cash. Fool me once shame and you, fool me twice shame on me.

                            Harle

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