These screenshots are not impressing me.

[Nordicus]

If you are here to piss and moan, great, have a good ol' time, Darth. Jolly good and say hi to Alexander's Arse for me....
If you are here to actually gain some vaild insight into *precisely* how CtP will be different from CtPII, perhaps you ought to pay attention to those who have "more-than-common" knowledge relating to the work in progress called Call to Power II--like Markos, Wes--even myself. For these two people have unique views into the developement and have stated very good points regarding the game.
If you are caught up in looks, play AoK; if you are so enamored with the "duh good ol' days," go play the orginal Civ; what are you even doing here? There does not seem to be any logic concerning what you consider to be arguments...so, what exactly is your problem?
If you have a beef against Activision, email them and b-itch. If you have a beef against CtP, maybe find old some Horsie thread trashing the game in the CtP section. Sorry, but I'm simply trying to ascertain what you're doing here in the CtPII section...looking for an argument or for information or clarification or reassurance or justification for buying the game when it comes out? Just that picking at the graphics seems shallow and like an underlying motive....

[PostScript: Yes, I concur: the TV-head bozo was a stupid graphic--the sprite of which can be changed in less than ten minutes (I had one in mind myself)...not that it is anyone else's responsibility, except for those who do not like the graphic; if you don't like it, change it, or ask someone for adivice regrarding how.]

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[DarthVeda]

No, I'm just here to say that I don't want this game to turn into a true sequel of call-to-power 1, if you understand what I mean...

On with my comparrison...

One thing I really hated about the first was that I couldn't cancel out a qued move without making one in another direction.

Maybe they actually fixed this?!

[DarthVeda]

No, I'm just here to say that I don't want this game to turn into a true sequel of call-to-power 1, if you understand what I mean...

On with my comparrison...

One thing I really hated about the first was that I couldn't cancel out a qued move without making one in another direction.

Maybe they actually fixed this?!

What I really hated most was the developer's mentality that anything they leave broke will be fixed by the users. Hopefully they don't repeat this.

[The Kaiser]

Well looks like Nordicus has put himself in the CTP2:-Defend at all cost's cause were Holyier than thou fan club. A movement with many members in this thread, who feel the need to flame anyone who doesn't toe the party line.

This is a thread about how the look of the screenshot's so far don't give us confidence that a lot has fundamentally changed about the game.

If anyone doesn't like this topic, I suggest they are the ones to leave. Yes, go back to your latest Activision Club Newsletter thread!

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[MarkG]

it looks like you're the one doing the flaming Kaiser....

i fail to understand how you wait from a still screenshot to find out if a lot have changed in the game, ignoring all the info that has been publicized so far


anyway, i'm glad to announce that starting Monday its "CTP2 Week" for Apolyton. we'll be concetrating all the info floating on the previews, the forums and the news archives, as well as show some new game art

[DarthVeda]

I'm watching intently then...

[The Kaiser]

Yes we shall all watch intently, for this "new game art".

I gather by this statement that Activision will be coming out of their bunker they seemed to have been in over the past month.

Still it must be time consuming generating that intro video sequence that we'll watch once and then click past every other time. It's such a shame all that artistry will go to waste. If only they could find some other area in which to direct their artistic skills. Hmmm, now let me see...
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[MidKnight Lament]

Fantastic. New info on Apolyton has been very scarce over the last week.

- MKL

[MarkG]

quote: Originally posted by The Kaiser on 08-05-2000 06:57 PM Still it must be time consuming generating that intro video sequence that we'll watch once and then click past every other time. It's such a shame all that artistry will go to waste. If only they could find some other area in which to direct their artistic skills. Hmmm, now let me see...

but be very carefull! if they use a 3d-object from that intro movie into another movie(for a wonder for example), we'll exile them to burn in (civ) hell!!

[Big Dave]

quote: Originally posted by DarthVeda on 08-05-2000 07:47 AM No, I'm just here to say that I don't want this game to turn into a true sequel of call-to-power 1, if you understand what I mean... On with my comparrison... One thing I really hated about the first was that I couldn't cancel out a qued move without making one in another direction. Maybe they actually fixed this?!

Now we're getting somewhere! Thank you for airing a valid complaint, something MrOgre & Co. might be able to do something about!!!

quote: Originally posted by DarthVeda on 08-05-2000 07:47 AM What I really hated most was the developer's mentality that anything they leave broke will be fixed by the users. Hopefully they don't repeat this.

If Activision pulls this stunt again I'll probably buy the game just so I can start a class action lawsuit for fraud against them.

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Big Dave

A bad pun is its own reword.
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[Big Dave]

quote: Originally posted by The Kaiser on 08-05-2000 02:33 PM Well looks like Nordicus has put himself in the CTP2:-Defend at all cost's cause were Holyier than thou fan club. A movement with many members in this thread, who feel the need to flame anyone who doesn't toe the party line. This is a thread about how the look of the screenshot's so far don't give us confidence that a lot has fundamentally changed about the game. If anyone doesn't like this topic, I suggest they are the ones to leave. Yes, go back to your latest Activision Club Newsletter thread! [This message has been edited by The Kaiser (edited August 05, 2000).]

Oh, I see, and anyone who doesn't agree with you that CTP2 stinks is automatically a "defender" of CTP2? You'd better ask your momma to read some of these posts to you again, child.

I'm getting very tired of attempting to reason with imbiciles........

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Big Dave

Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.

[Big Dave]

quote: Originally posted by DarthVeda on 08-05-2000 05:32 PM I'm watching intently then...

Darth, don't just watch, post! What else don't you like about the game? Let them know before the code is frozen for release! They can't fix it if they don't know it's broken.

[The Kaiser]

You guys have got me all wrong.

Ok my next to last post virtually ended up being a flame about flaming. But what I was trying to say was how I don't like how people begin their posts with a personal attack, and then end with a "if you've got nothing constructive to say" cliche.

I'm not anti CTP. I think CTP introduced a lot of interesting new idea's into the CIV genre. Competition is good in any part of life, and we know CIV3 is going to take a few leaves out of CTP's book.

But we all have to face it, that taken as a whole CTP was not a great game. It was Ok at best. And what is irratating at times is some peoples intolerance of constructive criticism, however trivial some of the topic's may appear.

[MarkG]

quote: Originally posted by The Kaiser on 08-06-2000 07:33 AM But we all have to face it, that taken as a whole CTP was not a great game. It was Ok at best. And what is irratating at times is some peoples intolerance of constructive criticism, however trivial some of the topic's may appear.

what is also irritating(to me) is when i read a phrase like "we all have to face it". post your opinion but please dont tell me what my opinion should be...

[The Kaiser]

There I was trying to give a honest inoffensive post and someone takes it the wrong way again.

I give up!