An unofficial poll: do you still play CTP2?

[Guest]

I'm just curious to know (1) how many of us still play CTP2? If you do, (2) do you use any mods? Further, (3) why do you play? I mean, what are you able to get out of this game?

I played two games and after that great disappointment of the discontinuation of Activision's support I moved back to Civ2. I'm sad that this could-be great game didn't get properly finalized. (due to those greedy Activision managers I'm not blaming the programmers here!)

I get my joy of playing if I have decent opponents. I need challenge! The total incompetens of AI really kills this game, IMHO.

CTP2 still has some hope, in form of mod makers. AFAIK a great lot of things can be altered via editing text files and doing some SLIC (?) programming. So, if the mod makers can make a smarter AI, I might give it one more go!

I hope that everyone here who still plays the game would reply to my three questions. Thanks!

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[Sean]

I am not playing at the moment. I intend to give this succession game idea a go though. I am hoping this should cut down on some of the endless clicking & waiting, normally involved in this game.

[OmniGod]

I don't play anymore... I just create when I have a chance... hopefully someone is playing or else we're all creating for no reason

[Skeeve]

quote: Originally posted by Marko Polo on 03-21-2001 03:57 AM I'm just curious to know (1) how many of us still play CTP2? If you do, (2) do you use any mods? Further, (3) why do you play? I mean, what are you able to get out of this game? [This message has been edited by Marko Polo (edited March 21, 2001).]

1) I've only had the game for 5 weeks... still playing.
2) No mods yet... I tried Diplomod, but I kept getting a "Global Warming" message every 2 turns after 4000 BC, so I re-installed the game. I'll give Diplomod another go after our succession game.
3) Well, I've played enough CIV2 to choke a Chieftan. There is nothing more that CIV2 has to offer me since, you name it, I've probably done it. Therefore, CTP2 is all that's left until CIV3. Despite the bugs and problems of CTP2 it's still a relief to use Public Works instead of engineers, and Trade Routes instead of Caravans. (Ug! I hated those Caravans in CIV2! Except for when I surrounded a town with them to speed up a Wonder).

To really make a long story short: Call to Power 2 is total FILLER until CIVILIZATION III comes out in 2002 (yeah, they say 4thQ 2001, but get real).


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[hexagonian]

Play...what's that??????

...must...attempt...to fix...before I can play!!!

[wittlich]

Nope, as a far as I'm concerned, CTP2 to broke, broke, broke...So the game has been shelved since early January. Presently I mess around with CIV2MGE, CIV2TOT, and EU while I await the eventual release of CIV3.

However, as you have noticed, I still visit the CTP2 Forum - with the very slim chance that someone has found a way to fix, band-aid, put on life support, etc, CTP2 so that a game can actually be finished! (and folks, I'm talking mainly multiplay here )

[Martin Gühmann]

Playing?

I love cities. I love to found them. I love to conquer them.
I hate to be penalized for it. I hate messages like: To many cities! like in Civ2, and my action to build an city was canceled. That was the end of playing Civ2. And the city administration of Civ2 slowed down my computer. Therefore CTP2 is an better game than Civ2.

There is no time to play, because of mod creating.
But afterwards I will play with new city styles, ages and goods.

[Craftsman]

Hello,

Answering...

1) Don´t even imagine. Probably few.

2) No mods, for now.

3) I do like strategy games. Just waiting for CivIII.

[Steve5304]

What, Play? The majority of the CTP community returned there game like I did.The AI was too Retarded to actually keep me interested in playing a game. Its still Installed still and im tryin to fix Mplayer but I dont play single.


On the other hand.
A small swedish company called Paradox made a game called Europa-Universalis.The complaint Ive had is the computer is too good.They are also helpful.Get this,when you have an Allaince with the AI. Ok Say Im France and at war with spain. If I call my english allies too help me, They will send there navys out and blockade Spanish ports. Then they will send army over and attach them under your command or keep them independant! There even smarter when you fight them! There very good when besieging a Province or city. And they can Churn out a nice military. Best of all there not afraid to ATTACK! they will amass an army for months and then suddenly, will declare war. Wars often end up a disaster in my case . The AI routenly burns citys to the ground before you enter them. And they constantly counter-attack with available forces.They also know when to witch over from "attack mode" to "defense mode".There isnt a single flaw in the AIs conduct that I can think of. Except for AI Genius .Sometimes Its just fun to watch the AIs duke it out they really, really go at it

Anyway enough of my Babbling Go to there Site and check it out !
Go Read the AARs! This is an excellent game worthy of our purchase. We need to support these kind of games.
www.Europa-Universalis.com



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[Skeeve]

Wow! EU looks like a great game... uh oh...
The sheer promise of a better game is pulling me away from CTP2...
Could this be the Filler we've been looking from until CIV3??

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[Dale]

1. Nope. I'm working through the campaigns of Cultures (not bad for a filler). EU isn't on the two-month lists of EB here yet, so I'm completely bored. Actually, to tell the truth I got a life back since stopping playing CTP2 a few weeks ago.

2. When I do play I use diplomacy mod (naturally ) only. Frenzy is good at all-out attack, but there's no defense left afterwards.

3. See 1.

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[Steve5304]

Skeeve it is an awesome game. Its AI is very smart! I kid you not, This AI is the smartest in any game, ever. Not only is EU selling like Nuts. It is getting great reviews and is much better than, dare I say it.

here goes,

may the Civ Gods have mercy on me


Europa-Universalis is Better Than Civ2 !

that said


Go out and buy the game.

Unlike Ctp2, I am telling you. Player to Player that this is an amazing game. Unlike CTP2 with all the paid reviews.This is coming from the mouth of someone who is drueling,thinking about loading up an EU game.


Girlfriend is starting to think I am Impotent, Im running outta excuses. How am i supposed to tell her that EU is alot better to play in the middle night .
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[joseph1944]

Yes I played the game since the Nov. release with a small break (a few day at most) here and there to play other games. I think there are a lot of people playing the game, however most will not post here. This is a really good game if you give it a change. Yes there is still a bad bug in the game that make the game crash to desk top.
I'm just now starting to play around with the game files making small changes. When Wes and the other mods maker finnish with his mod, I will start to play it. I also belived that if all of the bad mouthing would stop maybe Activision would make that last patch that we all could use.

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[phoenixcager]

I'm still playing. No mods at all.

I have yet to finish a game, I've got 2 games kind of hanging in the air...mainly because I've been busy with other things.

I spend most of my game-playing time with the CtP1 PBEMs these days, though.

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[wittlich]

quote: Originally posted by Skeeve on 03-21-2001 03:50 PM Wow! EU looks like a great game... uh oh... The sheer promise of a better game is pulling me away from CTP2... Could this be the Filler we've been looking from until CIV3??

I too have played EU...but it is definately NOT a civilization game. EU is interesting, but something is missing. I don't know, I just seem to lack the personal connection one feels for your nation in the civ-based games.