Could anyone explain?

[Solver]

This actually is to all of you, but especially Mark and Dan - why is the Multiplaying forum here, if CTP2 lacks hotseat or PBEM feautures. BTW, a good reason not to buy it, or at least play CTP1 with humans yet.

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[MarkG]

there is also something called internet/lan multiplayer you know....

[Solver]

Well, Internet multiplayer isn't that way exciting. It's long and even quite boring - if even each of your enemies makes a turn in 3 minutes, with 5 enemies, ir's 15 minutes of waiting. I think this is only good if you have other things to do while playing.
And also, forums are mostly needed for PBEM, LAN games often go without it.
But I yet hope we see the patch someday, just like the way it was with CTP1. Moreover, I hope the patch will come soon.

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[MarkG]

well, even few people actually use this forum to will be a reminder to every activisioner coming to the front page of the forums to add pbem...

[Solver]

Nice point , lack of people will lead us to having a patch . Hope those Activisioners do this. So, in the real world don't post if you want the things to go better .

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[quinns]

I agree with you Solver. Everyone has their personal preferences, however. I don't see internet play as that boring, but more that there is no time to enjoy the game because you spend the whole game playing civilization "clerk", making sure all your cities and units are maximizing their effort.

Personally, my mind can't work that fast. If a time limit of 2 minutes per turn is set and you have 10 cities and 30 units, I think you are missing a lot. In chess, you have 90 minutes to make 45 moves. That's 2 minutes per turn to move just ONE piece. Some chess players see even this as too fast. Civilization Call to Power is infinitely more complicated than Chess.

I like to see CtP as a STRATEGY game -- not a game to see who can administer their settings the quickest.

[This message has been edited by quinns (edited November 20, 2000).]

[Daniel Frappier]

Solver,

I played some CTP I internet games and found them very exciting, at 4 players, 1 1/2 min./turn, you will never have to wait more then 4 minutes between turns and some of that time is needed to manage you're cities and empire.

On the other hand I can't see myself playing an e-mail game over 3 or 4 years and not loosing interest. I don't want to put e-mail down and there is lots of interests in e-mail games, I just don't understand why.

[Luk]

Hey, Why that stupid people from Apolyton didnt implemented PBEM and HOTSEAT game to CTP2???????
Is it a backward step.

They are silly, and stupid!

[Mike the Nuke]

Backwards, of course. They put HotSeat in CIV2 TOT and it works great. It worked in CTP-I. They took it out to allow you to have a better interface with you computer and better 'diplomacy' with the AI (computer). That way you can 'play with youself easier'. We play only in th HotSeat mode, human vs human (we often throw an AI or two in for 'kicks'). In CIV2 TOT, you add a couple AI's so other people can later JOIN the game.

To Mark:

Great...Just what I always wanted to do. But 2-6 more computers and set up a LAN to play some stupid game against other human players. Get off you high stool with Activision and the good folkd that 'apparrently' gave you a copy of CTP II (note the word apparrently) to play and review. You've had your longest forums on the HotSeat and PBEM options not being included. Use you 'push' to get Activision to make a commitment in these areas instead of giving us a bunch of 'so called reviews by people who have a habit of over rating "ne toys".

I never played PBEM, so I don't understand how peole can stay focussed on the game when it 'apparrently' tales months to play, but they must enjoy it. It may be the only way they can play, especially if people they want to paly against live on the other side of the planet. HotSeat would not be an option for them and internet play has too many restriction and quickly dies-off as the game ages (ie their are many 'good' games out ther with internet play available, but no sites to play on any more).

ACTIVISION....GET HOT SEAT AND PBEM BACK....PERIOD!

[MarkG]

quote: Originally posted by Luk on 11-21-2000 02:11 PM Hey, Why that stupid people from Apolyton didnt implemented PBEM and HOTSEAT game to CTP2??????? Is it a backward step. They are silly, and stupid!

note: apolyton is not the developer of ctp2

[MarkG]

quote: Originally posted by Mike the Nuke Great...Just what I always wanted to do. But 2-6 more computers and set up a LAN to play some stupid game against other human players.

so, all lan games are "stupid"? please explain

quote: Get off you high stool with Activision and the good folkd that 'apparrently' gave you a copy of CTP II (note the word apparrently) to play and review.

no comment...

quote: You've had your longest forums on the HotSeat and PBEM options not being included.

the multiplaying forum are not the biggest. thousands of of threads have been archived/deleted

quote: Use you 'push' to get Activision to make a commitment in these areas

if you think that i am able to convince the activision executives to make a patch for pbem, you are sadly mistaken...

quote: instead of giving us a bunch of 'so called reviews by people who have a habit of over rating "ne toys".

perhaps you should do a review and give us a proper rating...

[Alexander's Horse]

quote: Originally posted by Solver on 11-20-2000 08:58 AM Well, Internet multiplayer isn't that way exciting. It's long and even quite boring - if even each of your enemies makes a turn in 3 minutes, with 5 enemies, ir's 15 minutes of waiting.

Ha ha ha I play civ 2 and turns can easily run to half an hour or more for each player!




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[Sarxis]

Look people: if someone makes a TBS game, it should be a GIVEN that pbem and hotseat are included. We all know it, and they all know it, and that's the way it should be.

[MarkG]

quote: Originally posted by Anunikoba on 11-23-2000 01:52 AM Look people: if someone makes a TBS game, it should be a GIVEN that pbem and hotseat are included. We all know it, and they all know it, and that's the way it should be.

who disagreed?

[quinns]

MarkG, I don't think these remarks are aimed at you, they are aimed at Activision via this most popular bulletin board. (Activision refers people to THIS site regarding discussions). I think most everyone knows that MarkG is not responsible for the decisions made at Activision. However, maybe some feel that you could have been this forum's representative to Activision .