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  • #16
    A proof of the lack of discussion can ruin the game. Turambar, the current Minister of Defense did not dicuss about the idea of send a suicide warrior to Graz to know how many unit there were in the city. We had to spend discussing about this while we should have done it during the week (he had six days do so) with a simple poll and he didnt. We ended up sending the warrior back to H Town since most agree the idea was not good.

    I am not questioning Turambar decisions but this could have been avoided with a single poll. The community was going to come up with the best option for the warrior. Probably explore north to Pressburg in which it was sent to do now. after stupidily moving to Graz and back to H Town.

    If i do not get elected. Please minister this serves as construtive critics to all specially the new ones. You guys need to explain the people what you want to do. At least give the guidelines to the President This critic is not only for Turambar but to all miniters too.

    I know how this lack of guidelines can harm the game. After all i am the current President!
    Last edited by Pedrunn; February 16, 2003, 23:06.
    "Kill a man and you are a murder.
    Kill thousands and you are a conquer.
    Kill all and you are a God!"
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    • #17
      I voted for Pedrunn on this one, just so he wouldn't have to feel the fall in living standards he was used to as President - not straight away atleast! And i was worried if Turambar was too busy his excellent stories might start to fade into our distant history
      Just a thought do we have easy to access info on which candidates have served in which positions? I just want to be fair and give everyone a go at something(and i tend to forget who's done what).
      'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

      Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by child of Thor
        Just a thought do we have easy to access info on which candidates have served in which positions? I just want to be fair and give everyone a go at something(and i tend to forget who's done what).
        They are listed in the government announcements thread (by Locutus, a few posts down).
        Last edited by J Bytheway; February 18, 2003, 04:21.

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        • #19
          I regret to inform everyone that I'm pulling out of this election. I've a load of university work piling up, amongst other things (CM4 comes out soon ) and simply don't have the time at the moment to give this job the time / thought it needs.

          I've no idea what the Con says about pulling out of elections (if this thread just continues or has to be restarted) but I'm happy to continue in the role of MoD whilst this election is still going.

          I also wish to urge everyone to vote for Pedrunn as the new MoD!
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          • #20
            then someone needs to change his votes to Pedrunn (that includes mine)

            althought Pedrunn will still very likely win

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            • #21
              greetings fellow people of lemuria,
              at first i have to apologize, i haven't held this speech earlier, i was kept away by some constitutional discussion, as you might have noticed as well as - and that was a much stronger reason - due to a little malady i had. the doctors diagnosted it as a "contempory lack of ctp2" in my system. but that has been cured. my best and thankful wishes to the wise staff of the pedrunnic memorial hospital.
              i also wish to thank turambar, for his services to our country. though i have disagreed with him sometime, i respect him as a honorable person, and hope he will be back with time and health soon. and of course, i want to thank my competitioner pedrunn, for the great services as our president.

              which brings me to the first point of my speech:
              pedrunn says, that all decisions have to be discussed and decided upon in a free and democratic manner. well, there's not much to say about, except he's damn' right. i intend to do the same, since, you -the people- have to decide, and the ministers have to enact your will. as it was done, when the majority of you cried for war. you know, i was strongly opposing this, but now, that has been decided. what has this war brought us so far? two new and great cities, that will benefit our nation in growing, in size, in population, in military might, and sometimes later as well in scientific research. so far, we all agree. but what else did this war bring to us? an open flank and a dire enemy! yes, now our territory is greater, but so are our borders. at the time i'm writing this, our great army has to protect the borders all the way from pedrunnia, our beautifull capitol to the new and prospering town of pressburg. already fears have risen in our nation, that the austrains might sneak to pedrunnia through the unguarded wilderness to the northwest. so what can be done, to prevent this? well, there are several ways, one can thing of. one, which seems to be the most popular in the decreasing ranks of the warmongerers, would be to take all troops, amass them and capture graz, which is in a strategic position, roughly halfway between the austrian capitol wien and our own, situated at a river, which allows for quick unit transfers from or to wien, linz and pilsen. of course, it would be great if we could conqueor that important place. but can we do now? only if we weaken the defenses of our cities, and even then, its doubtful. and we have to remember, its not just taking graz, its also about defending it against the reinforcements from wien, pilsen and linz. so this can't be a shorttime solution. another idea of course would be, to seek for peace with austria, and i wouldn't be surprised, if thats what some of you expect from me and my "peacenicks", as the app has been called. i assure you, though i want peace, i don't want it now! we have teached the austrians already, that peace with us means only time for building up our own troops before we go for another raid against their towns. so even if the accepted (which i rather doubt, btw) they wouldn't trust us, which also means we couldn't trust them. and we still were suffering from our open flank in the west. peace shall not be made, until we at least get hold of graz, and even better wien as well. so, how can we capture graz, if we aren't attacking? i don't say, we shouldn't attack. i say instead attack later, and with a force, strong enough to capture graz, hold it, and even march on to another town of theirs! meanwhile we have to build up further units for defence. the 3 warriors we have, should be used as scouts in the border area, to get early views of austrian counterstrikes. this will enable us to replace forces in response to a possible attack on the river.
              i guess that answers the question by honorable mapfi, about how we should battle the austrians: until we have got at least the keytown of graz, even better their capitol.

              another question raised was, if we should attack further towns for enslavement when we have reached the maximum number of cities, our bureaucrats can handle. well, that is a difficult question right now. in general i would say yes. yes if
              - if we still have an army capable of doing so after winning the important battles. we shouldn't further neglect the construction of infrastructure in our lands and our cities for gaining some extra workers and a bad reputation
              - if the austrians don't agree to peace after we will have taken their cities at our borders
              - if we aren't standing near to a major breakthrough in the scientific art of government, which will allow us to wield more cities soon.
              - if we don't have anything more important for our army to do then.

              but this is still some way to go, and other ifs might appear on that way.

              i thank you for your audience. may our nation prosper in wealth, welfare, and peace as well, when it can be made safely. the holy apolyton be with you.

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              • #22
                *applause*
                Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
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                • #23
                  *switches the mic on* okay can you do that one more time?
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Maquiladora
                    *switches the mic on* okay can you do that one more time?
                    my speech?

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                    • #25
                      nice joke.......that is, if ur j/k

                      but remember that Pedrunn has it in the bag (i hope)

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                      • #26
                        Congrats Pedrunn!!

                        *hands over keys to the MoD office and the secret cover up documents*
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                        • #27
                          Election is finished.

                          Congratulation Pedrunn.

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