Should we disband Pressburg?

[Locutus]

Once again, we should NOT disband the city. It's in a far better position than H Town, so if any city is to be disbanded it should be H Town. However, that is only possible after building a bunch of Settlers there.

But let's not forget the situation here: we are at WAR! The Austrians are about to retaliate, for all we know they could have 12-stacks ready to attack just inside the fog of war and we're talking about disbanding cities, building Settlers and even building Wonders! We should be pumping out units instead, pumping like our lifes depend on it - because, quite frankly, they do! We need every city we can get for that, disbanding anything is not an option at this point.

Pressburg has a growth rate of 1725 and will grow in 3 turns (after which the growth rate should still be 1000+ at least). Currently it has a production of 39 and that will rise to 50+ after the city growth, which would be 1/2 of H Town's production (with probably a higher growth rate) - not bad for a size 2 city.

[mapfi]

I totally agree with Locutus, disbanding the city would be pure folly

[Gilgamensch]

Same as me,

I would like to see H Town to be disbanded, but it is too big for it.

So, I think we have to live with it.

[MrBaggins]

ROI for disbanding Pressburg to avoid being in the way of H-Towns expansion:

Disband Pressburg
Pressburg loss: Lose 30/50/70 production a turn and 9/12/16 science a turn. (until it settled: assuming the spot would be as valuable) We also loose 6000 growth.
H-Town gain: The squares in question are grassland. Extra Growth gained would be 6 per pop increase. Extra production and science gained would be 1.2 per pop increase. H-Town grows slower proportionally than Pressburg

Keeping Pressburg is the inverse.

(Gain 30/50/70 Prod & 9/12/16 Science). Fighting over some growth potential is moot... its a wash, and the smaller town benefits from the growth more anyway.

MrBaggins

[Gilgamensch]

Might be a stupid one, but what is ROI ??????

[MrBaggins]

Return On Investment

[MrBaggins]

Eventually (like 80-120 turns down the road) I can see turning Pressburg into a settler factory, so that H-Town can become a major commerce town, and a SSC.

Settlers could be used to settle or disband in cities.

MrBaggins

[Gilgamensch]

I tried once or twice with disbanding settlers, but it doesn't increase the size of the city, is it different with this mod?

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by Gilgamensch
I tried once or twice with disbanding settlers, but it doesn't increase the size of the city, is it different with this mod?

In SAP2+Goodmod, it not only adds to production, but population as well. Its the highest payoff for shield production that we can get.

MrBaggins

[Gilgamensch]

That sounds worthwhile doing it!!!!!!!!!!

[child of Thor]

I agree with Locutus that we should 'be pumping like our lives depend on it'.......its good for morale
And we are at war, surrounded by more powerful nations than ourselves. We can do 'landscape gardening' later, but for now we should have as many cities as possible producing military units - we will need them in the coming turns

[HuangShang]

come on! i dont see why we cant just move pressburg

[mapfi]

duh - because it's stupid, that's why.

Seriously - both cities are in very good spots, they only happen to be a little clos to each other. It'll be a while however, before they get in their way and even then - so they won't grow to size 30, who cares? They're very valuable now and that's when we need them most. Later on they'll just be some two cities of our glorious huge empire.

[Maquiladora]

Originally posted by child of Thor
I agree with Locutus that we should 'be pumping like our lives depend on it'.......its good for morale

Can i second that?

I think we should disband it eventually so every city we have has enough space to be a good contributor, but right now its needed more where it is.

[Tamerlin]

This city should not be Disbanded, it is too precious for us now, IMHO we need it now as it is.