To attack or not to attack?

[MrBaggins]

I think they are more likely to harass the more lightly defended positions... and actually help us out

Plus if they did pillage, they'd be pillaging in the immediate vicinity of Pressburg and H Town, where we can attack and move back immediately.

[Pedrunn]

wrong thread

[Martin Gühmann]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
I think they are more likely to harass the more lightly defended positions... and actually help us out

Plus if they did pillage, they'd be pillaging in the immediate vicinity of Pressburg and H Town, where we can attack and move back immediately.

But there is still one unit that we would lost in the case of the cases. Open we the hut with an bigger army we could keep all of our units.

-Martin

[child of Thor]

We could take a warrior and an archer to take out Wess.
Leave the hoplites to defend as that is what they do best.
After our troops return from that mission(in which time we will have replaced them with new units in both new cities), they can then try the goody hut - could be good stuff; and atleast with the two units they could see off a number of individual attacks by any barbs, even if it means they take some damage.
Of course if we see an Austrian revenge stack coming our way they should defend our cities.
Having a total of 1unit from each city less, for the next 2-3 turns isn't too much of a problem and i'd rather get rid of Wess now, we might be under a huge onslaught in the next 5-20+ turns and might not have the spare time/units to deal with Wess then?

[MrBaggins]

But that means guaranteeing riots in pressburg and loosing all that science

[Martin Gühmann]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
But that means guaranteeing riots in pressburg and loosing all that science

Well that is a good point, Innsbruck (H Town) is now producing a hopelite in three turns. So it could reenforce our troops in Pressburg, if we loose the unit at the goody hut. Leaving Pressburg with four units could reduce the happiness in Pressburg but I don't know by how much, currently the units in Pressburg give 4 happiness because of martial law. The happiness bonus will be lower and a happiness of 71 will most probably mean rioting. So let's see what happen if one unit leaves Pressburg, it will also need four turns to return for our army to Pressburg. So it will be better to loose the unit in the case of the cases.

-Martin

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
But that means guaranteeing riots in pressburg and loosing all that science

Yes, with our present empire settings it would. I never did get an answer in the last chat about changing our Empire settings for a while. Increase food to cover unhappiness that we will be feeling while we are in the mood for war. This would solve the problem, without causeing any others i believe?

[MrBaggins]

We can sustain a martial law bonus of 4, at this point. If we remove more than one unit, without waiting for conquest distress decay, then we loose happiness, and it will riot.

MrBaggins

[Dinner]

You guys are still debating an attack? Its looking more and more like you're never going to attack.

[HuangShang]

I AM GOING INSANE LISTENING TO ALL U BLIND PEOPLE!!!!!
sorry if that offended anyone, but please be aware of the following!

the Austrians (who i assume are orange) have a city down river, it is obvious that it cant have good defenses and that reenforcements are unlikely to show. if it isnt Austrian, then i'll look very, very stupid, but we should have our attention on that city no matter

[MrBaggins]

You are missing the point.

If we attack it at size 1... it just dies and disappears.


Some people are in favor of attacking it whilst it is at size 2... which would mean that it is not destroyed, and hence will have some value...

[HuangShang]

i'd say we at least go scout it out, and also to isolate that city

[Locutus]

Uhm, Oerdin, we already attacked and took two cities. We're now discussing if we should attack a 3rd city or first consolidate and build up new forces. Might be useful if you actually read up on what's going on before posting

I still prefer to attack now: if we wait too long the Austrian may rush-buy or move in troops from elsewhere. Our focus should be on taking Graz, not on some insignificant border towns. If the battle of Wels is too bloody we loose troops that we need elsewhere. Also, if we get to keep the city (or a Settler), we will need troops to defend it. Take the gold and PW bonus now and focus on Graz after that, is what I say.

[Pedrunn]

I dont think we should send an army too the hut since we will only able to send an army once the conquest distress of Pressburg decreases. Unless we send a expendable warrior from H Town but this too will cause unhappiness and a possible riot!

Attack Wels is stupid. A size on city cant damage us in the next 15 turns (it takes about 10 to build a hoplite in such a bad site. And indeed we should neve keep it if we get it. It is too far away from the capital and as i said the site is terrible. Much better disband it and settle somewhereelse like the at north of Pedrunnia close to the dates.

But we also have a big problem regrd moving the units. Pressburg is on conquest Distress which means keep the units until it get better on happiness. Removing two units means riots.

Still i do believe we should attack Graz in the next 7 turns.

1) Sending the Warrior of Pedrunnia in the next turn (A new hoplite is 2 turns to be ready there). and bring bak th archer and the hoplite in field.

2) In three turns the happiness of Pressburg should have improved enough to send 3 units to H Town which take 2 tuns to do so.

3) In the time we have all units in H Town (5 turns) we will have: 3 units (from Pressburg) + 1 archer (from Pedrunnia) + 1 hoplte (from H Town building) + 4 units (garrinsoned in H Town) = 9 units.

4) In the 6th turn we send a stack of 7 units from H Town to Graz leaving a hoplite and a archer in H Town. I think this will be enough to conquer Graz.

[Pedrunn]

Note: If we disband Pressburg we will have more control of the units and therefore make a even better attack or attack sooner!