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    Diplomacy Log

    In this thread I, as Minister of Diplomacy, Trade and Science, will keep track of all diplomatic events in the game. For readability, I split the thread in three parts: a proposal log with all sent/received diplomatic proposals (which should be pretty much self-explanatory), a log of all noteworthy events from a diplomatic standpoint and an overview of the diplomatic situation at the end of each turn chat.

    In the end-of-chat reports, the listing is the same as the Diplomacy Manager (F7) in CtP2, while the table is a summary of the Intelligence screen(s): it displays regard/strengh (both on a scale from 1 to 5, 5 being the highest)) that every civ has towards every other civs (proposals are not listed as that is too complicated to display properly; if needed important proposals will be listed in the Event log). To see what the German regard (and relative strength) towards other civs is, look at the 'Germany' row (horizontal). To see how other civs view the Germans, look at the 'Germany' column (vertical).



    Proposal Log

    Code:
    Turn	Year	From/To	Civ		Tone	Our Offer	Our Request	Respons Threat	Response
    						(Their Request)	(Their Offer)
    11	3780 BC	To	Austria		Meek	Withdraw	-		Accept	-	-
    12	3760 BC	To	Austria		Meek	Map		Map		Reject	None	-
    13	3740 BC	To	Austria		Meek	100 Gold	-		Accept	-	-
    14	3720 BC	To	Austria		Meek	Map		Map		Reject	War	Reject
    14	3720 BC	To	Austria		Meek	Map		Map		Accept	-	-
    14	3720 BC	To	Austria		Meek	-		Withdraw	Accept	-	-
    29	3420 BC	From	Germany		Friend	Withdraw	-		Accept	-	-
    30	3400 BC	To	Germany		Meek	Map		Map		Reject	War	Reject
    38	3240 BC	To	Germany		Meek	Map		Map		Reject	None	-
    45	3100 BC	To	Germany		Meek	100 Gold	-		Accept	-	-
    46	3080 BC	To	Germany		Meek	Map		Map		Accept	-	-
    46	3080 BC	To	Germany		Meek	Peace Treaty	-		Reject	War	Reject
    47	3060 BC	To	Thailand	Meek	Map		Map		Reject	War	Accept
    47	3040 BC	To	Thailand	Meek	Withdraw	Withdraw	Accept	-	-
    47	3040 BC	To	Thailand	Meek	Peace Treaty	-		Reject	-	Accept
    48	3040 BC	To	Germany		Meek	Peace Treaty	-		Accept	-	-
    48	3040 BC	To	Germany		Meek	Withdraw	Withdraw	Accept	-	-
    55	2900 BC	To	Austria		Meek	Map		Map		Reject	-	Reject
    57	2860 BC To	Austria		Angry	Map		Map		Reject	Innsbru	Reject
    61	2720 BC	To	Scotland	Meek	Map		Map		Reject	War	Reject
    Event Log

    Code:
    Turn(s)	Year(s)		Event
    
    Term 1 (Immortal Wombat is Minister)
    10-11	3800-3780 BC	Warrior spent 2 turns in Austrian territory
    11	3780 BC		First contact with the Maria Theresa of Austria (Populist Zealot)
    14	3720 BC		Warrior spent 1 turn in Austrian territory
    
    Term 2 (Locutus is Minister)
    18	3640 BC		Austrian attitude became more peaceful
    26-32	3480-3360 BC	Warrior spent 6 turns in German territory
    29	3420 BC		First contact with Otto Von Bismarck of Germany (Evil Genius)
    37-38	3260-3240 BC	Warrior spent 2 turns in German territory
    47	3060 BC		First contact with Rama V of Thailand (Shrewd Internationa Trader)
    56	2880 BC		Crossed Austrian border, Austria declared war (no message received)
    57	2860 BC		Took Innsbruck (H Town), killing 1 Archer
    60	2800 BC		Crossed Austrian border
    61	2780 BC		Took Pressburg (undefended)
    61	2780 BC		First contact with Robert Bruce of Scotland (Populist Zealot)
    Last edited by Locutus; February 11, 2003, 19:04.
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    End-of-Chat Reports

    Code:
    Chat 1: Turn 11, 3780 BC
    
    Austria		Dislike		Vigilant	Strong		-				(Unknown)
    
    From\To		| Lem Aus
    ----------------|--------
    Lemur		| --- 2/1
    Austria		| 2/4 ---
    
    
    Chat 2: Turn 14, 3720 BC
    
    Austria		Respect		Vigilant	Strong 		Mutual No-Tresspass		(Our diplomacy is favourable)
    
    From\To		| Lem Aus
    ----------------|--------
    Lemur		| --- 2/1
    Austria		| 3/4 ---
    
    
    Chat 3: Turn 19, 3620 BC
    
    Austria		Respect		Vigilant	Strong		Mutual No-Tresspass		(Our diplomacy is favourable)
    
    From\To		| Lem Aus
    ----------------|--------
    Lemur		| --- 2/1
    Austria		| 3/4 ---
    
    
    Chat 4: Turn 29, 4320 BC
    
    Austria		Dislike		Vigilant	Strong		Mutual No-Tresspass		(We occupy land on their continent)
    Germany		Dislike		Vigilant	Strong		-				(Our diplomacy has irked them)
    
    From\To		| Lem Aus Ger Tha
    ----------------|----------------
    Lemur		| --- 2/1 2/1 ?/?
    Austria		| 2/4 --- ?/? ?/?
    Germany		| 2/4 ?/? --- ?/?
    Thailand	| ?/? ?/? 2/4 ---
    
    
    Chat 5: Turn 48, 3040 BC
    
    Austria		Dislike		Vigilant	Strong 		Mutual No-Tresspass		(We occupy land on their continent)
    Germany		Respect		Vigilant	Strong 		Lemurian No-Tresspass		(Our diplomacy is favourable)
    Thailand	Respect		Vigilant	Strong 		Peace, Mutual No-Tresspass	(Our diplomacy is favourable)
    
    From\To		| Lem Aus Ger Tha Sco
    ----------------|--------------------
    Lemur		| --- 2/1 2/1 4/1 ?/?
    Austria		| 2/4 --- ?/? ?/? ?/?
    Germany		| 3/4 ?/? --- 2/4 ?/?
    Thailand	| 3/4 ?/? 2/1 --- ?/?
    Scotland	| ?/? 2/4 ?/? ?/? ---
    
    
    Chat 6: Turn 56, 2880 BC
    
    Austria		Dislike		Faithful	Strong 		Mutual No-Tresspass		(Our diplomacy has irked them)
    Germany		Respectful	Vigilant	Strong 		Peace, Mutual No-Tresspass	(Our diplomacy is favourable)
    Thailand	Respectful	Vigilant	Strong 		Peace, Mutual No-Tresspass	(Our diplomacy is favourable)
    
    From\To		| Lem Aus Ger Tha Sco Ind
    ----------------|------------------------
    Lemur		| --- 2/1 4/1 4/1 ?/? ?/?
    
    Austria		| 2/4 --- ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/?
    Germany		| 3/4 ?/? --- 2/4 ?/? ?/?
    Thailand	| 3/4 ?/? 2/1 --- ?/? ?/?
    Scotland	| ?/? 2/4 ?/? ?/? --- ?/?
    India		| ?/? ?/? ?/? 2/1 ?/? ---
    
    Chat 7: Turn 62, 2760 BC
    
    Austria		Despise		Vigilant	Strong 		WAR				(Our diplomacy has irked them)
    Scotland	Dislike		Vigilant	Strong		-				(Our diplomacy has irked them)
    Germany		Respectful	Vigilant	Strong 		Peace, Mutual No-Tresspass	(We occupy land on their continent)
    Thailand	Respectful	Vigilant	Strong 		Peace, Mutual No-Tresspass	(We occupy land on their continent)
    
    From\To		| Lem Aus Ger Tha Sco Ind Isr
    ----------------|----------------------------
    Lemur		| --- 1/1 4/1 4/1 2/1 ?/? ?/?
    Austria		| 1/4 --- ?/? ?/? 2/1 ?/? ?/?
    Germany		| 3/4 ?/? --- 2/1 ?/? ?/? ?/?
    Thailand	| 3/4 ?/? 2/4 --- ?/? ?/? ?/?
    Scotland	| 2/4 2/4 ?/? ?/? --- ?/? ?/?
    India		| ?/? ?/? 2/1 2/1 ?/? --- ?/?
    Israel		| ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? 2/1 ?/? ---
    Last edited by Locutus; February 12, 2003, 12:28.
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    • #3
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      • #4
        Updated (chat 6).

        Note that the Austrians actuallyy have faith in us, while our armies are massing on their border Also, the Thai made contact with the Indians.
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        • #5
          Updated to chat 7.

          Note how we made contact with the Scots and they immediately disliked us. Also, note how the strengh of Thailand/Germany went from 1/4 to 4/1...
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          • #6
            Excellent job Locutus, would like to see the same from the others

            Only one 'little' complaint:

            You think you could shrink it that it would fit on a normal 1024*768 resolution?
            Reason being I always have to scroll sideways to see the rest......

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            • #7
              Thanks. For diplomacy past actions are very important so it seemed wise to keep track of them.

              It would indeed be nice if other ministers did the same for their areas as well, that way we might actually be able to learn from any mistakes we make

              As far as resolution goes, that would be very hard. Originally I had everything in 1 table but that didn't even fit on 1600x1200. I cut it in three and now it should be doable, don't know how I could cut it down even further without making it too confusing to make sense off...

              I changed the order of treaties and motivation in the 3rd table, but that's about the best I can do. Aside from the motivation, everything should be visible at a glance on 1024x768, and the motivation is the least important part of the table anyway. (And if you scroll left far enough to loose the part of the post with my name and avatar and stuff, most of the motivation is readable as well.)
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              • #8
                Hey I always want to keep you in view, you never know with those Borgs

                Have you tried with minimising the size/font?

                And YES, I hope/pray that the other minister's might read this thread and will do the same

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                • #9
                  This thread is probably obsolte but was the best for this theme. What to do with the Germans. After all they broke an withdraw agreement... And they are in a imnent attack. If we do start a war with them what about the Austrians. I need to know this in order to make a good strategy.
                  "Kill a man and you are a murder.
                  Kill thousands and you are a conquer.
                  Kill all and you are a God!"
                  -Jean Rostand

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pedrunn
                    This thread is probably obsolte but was the best for this theme. What to do with the Germans. After all they broke an withdraw agreement... And they are in a imnent attack. If we do start a war with them what about the Austrians. I need to know this in order to make a good strategy.
                    Yeah but as far as they do not attack we have peace and I think we should wait until they attack or a second stack arrive, but we should have a second stack of 12 units outside of mapfipolis.

                    -Martin
                    Civ2 military advisor: "No complaints, Sir!"

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                    • #11
                      just for reference, the discussion of diplomatic affairs will be continued in this thread after i took over the ministry.

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