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Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
my poll was better
Indeed it was. Less reading too .
Right now, we need growth more than military action or trade or a king or the ability to put little squiggly things on paper. With growth, we have more production. With more production we have more power. We need slaves.
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Originally posted by MrBaggins
The more and more I think about this, the worse an idea I think it is, that is trying to out develop vs the AI, without the ability to expand citywise... the best we are going to do is 2 extra cities... for all intents and purposes, and then the AI is going to finish garrisonning, and start sending offensive stacks...
The absolutely essential thing is that we send what we have... now... to attack... 2 warriors/1 hoplite or visa versa and 2 archers... or one less warrior, if we don't think we can... but a 5 stack should be enough to go after Innsbruck if we go for it now... they'll have 1 or 2 units, due to the elapsed time the city has been around, and should have been predigeously growing due to all the farms the AI should have been putting down, on the river grassland... The older cities will be better garrisoned... and the very new cities will not be as advantageous. Taking a city *NOW* means them -1, us +1... and we are taking the battle to them. We get a decent advantage, and the possibility of locating a town between Innsbruck and Pedrunn... and think about testing their defenses further.
Sitting back and thinking about a future arms race will just have our 12 stack outnumbered 4 to 1... and if we keep waiting, 10 to 1.
We don't have the room to settle. The hills to the south are not a solution: the distance penalties will suck. The desert to the north isn't a solution either..
We do this... or we just *try* to defend... and stay on the defensive for the forseeable future. We won't be fighting useful offensive battles in 30 turns, when the stack Maquiladora imagines will be ready. It will be irrelevant whether we research Slave Labor or Writing.
Lets roll!
MrBaggins
Well said, shame its what ive been saying for the past 10 posts of mine in this thread.
Just to reiterate, i said we should attack ASAP, and if we wait and build slavers then we're giving ourselves a military disadvantage for no reason. I never said we should form a perfect 12 stack then attack, but i most certainly said that slavers are a waste of time with 2/3 cities, and we need to attack asap, which is coincidently what your saying now.
The choice to research slave labour or monarchy is still an important one, and seeing as your now aparently abandoning the "we should get slaves to work for us" arguement, in favour of "we should attack all out to take cities" so your agreeing with me now, without actually admitting it, but thats ok.
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