War Party: Debate attack Austrians plan

[MrBaggins]

I absolutely agree... we (the War Party) needs to be a united front on this subject. War now... but how?

As to to where... you can see the city sizes if you load the save...

I'll attach the visible cities

Its gonna be pretty obvious that Innsbruck is the right target; its only just been created

[MrBaggins]

now linz

[MrBaggins]

now wein

[mapfi]

Just don't forget to take into account that the Austrian map is about 20 turns old, so those cities must have sizes 3-4 bigger than this.

[child of Thor]

He who dares wins

I guess Innsbruck(when it is size2) and then Graz for the first phase.
After that see how things are going with germany and build for the next push.

[MrBaggins]

true... but... i was going to raise that proviso...but The AI still garrisons its core cities before the outlying cities, plus since the city was developed late, there would be a need to 'catch up', the AI would have built a growth improvement (Granary at this stage, unless they are VERY advanced) *AND* tile improvements.

The Granary would have taken about this long to be done... It'll be biggish, but thinly defended.

[Devil of Truth]

Uhm, while you were planning to make Austrian mothers cry, you forgot that you could "lead" the barbarians to a German city. Less risk.

[Devil of Truth]

And don’t put any APP members on the front line. Making canon fodder of your fellow citizens is just bad form . Besides, us pinko-liberals don’t make good soldiers.

[MrBaggins]

Theres a technical reason why you (APP members) go first. You get there faster on you free ass'

/me chuckles

[Devil of Truth]

You scared of standing in front Mr. B? All talk, no action heh?

[Devil of Truth]

That last post was supposed to have a little Wouldn’t want you bloodthirsty-meatheads clamouring for my blood.

Vote APP!

[Dinner]

Heck, we'll make the APP worth something yet. We can draft all of the members and send them to the front. If we take the city then fine and if all the APP get killed then we still win.

[child of Thor]

Tsk tsk......we need UNITY guys ,between all partys; anything else and we are doomed - war will happen,maybe very soon so lets get ready for it. Besides i've already voluntered myself as vangard to any attack, so there will be no need of a press-gang

[MrBaggins]

my last step... as opposed to going south

[child of Thor]

looks good. I don't think we will need to test the defences for that city with our 5+ units will we?
What city next? And should we sacrifice a unit to get a recce before commiting the main stack?

Edit....

Well as i sit here listening to Bob Marley and having had a think about things this is how it is looking.

We will most likely(pending the poll) attack Innsbruck with 1 warrior,1 Hoplite and 3 archers. It should be very lightly defended and we should suffer no casulties.
But from the military streangth graph that Jbytheway posted, we can see that the Austrians are 8th strongest out of 11(i think).We are last by a longway, but at this early stage that could just mean they have a few more units than us, and as we start to build a few more units from the soon to be settled coal(Mapfi)city we should see our bar start to rise quickly. If not, then we could be in trouble

Germany far from being the strongest militarily are 5th on the graph, and only comparitively stronger than Austria. We have a peace-treaty and a non-trespassing agreement with them now, so that is a great result

Once(if) Innsbruck has been taken IMHO we should keep all the units in the city just in case Austria tries to take it back.
Pedrunn(city) can build some units to build up it's defences and another settler if there is a good spot for it to go to?

After this and once a bigger stack can be put together which city should we go for? I think Granz looks good as it is close to Innsbruck and would fit in nicely with the overall shape of our emerging territory and because of the rivers would be quick to re-enforce if needed? I think it might also be a good idea to sacrifice a unit to get an idea of any other cities defences before we commit our stack? Any other cities that we should think about taking?
I'm in favour of taking as many as it takes to take austria out the game. So a long campaign of troop build-up, take 1-2 cities, defend, resuply and city improvement. Thoughts on all this?