AMENDMENT (as previously proposed)

[J Bytheway]

Originally posted by Gilgamensch
1/6 in favour isn't really the same as 1/3 at all.

Well, it's not exactly the same, but it's the obvious extension. What I mean is (ignoring absentions):

If 1/3 of the citizens vote, and at least half of those vote in favour then at least 1/6 of citizens have voted in favour.

Conversely, if 1/6 have voted in favour, and fewer than 1/6 have voted against, no matter what other citizens arrive and vote (even if they are all opposed) so as to bring the total number of votes to at least 1/3 of the citizens then there will still be at least as many votes in favour than against (and we don't worry to much about the possibility of a tie).

[Gilgamensch]

As I said, I start to like the idea, it's just it seems to be a too low figure. If you, as you did, analyse it a bit deeper, it shows little difference. I t actually improves as in the actual connie we could have 2 Y, 1 N, 30 A and it would be vaild

[H Tower]

how many more votes do we need to get this passed? hopefully not many

[MrBaggins]

I believe more than 1/6th (8) have already voted in favor.

[J Bytheway]

A total of 15 votes, so at least 4 more.

[MrBaggins]

two more at this point

[J Bytheway]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
I believe more than 1/6th (8) have already voted in favor.

Yes, so it would have already been enough if this amendment had already passed, but that's insufficient under the current system.

[MrBaggins]

Yup... gottit... realized after I posted...

[Tamerlin]

We should encourage everybody to vote this amendment in the various CtP2-Democracy Game related threads, I am really concerned by the fact several votes have been canceled because the quorum had not been reached.

[Gilgamensch]

The proposed change would make sense in the moment, 13 votes for Yes, no one against or abstains.

But as to our current connie, it is still failing...........

We would still need to more votes (44/3=14.666 makes 15 votes), doesn't matter how they would vote

[Gilgamensch]

Funny enough, after I posted my last comment, somebody voted NO.

Still means, just one vote to go..........

[child of Thor]

well if i can become prime minister of my country with about 40%(Thatchers 2nd term? or one of John Majors i think) of the votes cast in my favour then i can't see why we need such a contrast here. Surely if the majority vote positively for something that should be ok? so if 40% said yes , 25% no and 35% abstained then the 40% should carry it? Not that i really care about this stuff too much, but at least it would encourage the fence sitters to make up their minds

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by child of Thor
well if i can become prime minister of my country with about 40%(Thatchers 2nd term? or one of John Majors i think) of the votes cast in my favour then i can't see why we need such a contrast here. Surely if the majority vote positively for something that should be ok? so if 40% said yes , 25% no and 35% abstained then the 40% should carry it? Not that i really care about this stuff too much, but at least it would encourage the fence sitters to make up their minds

The fence sitters will be encouraged to act if they can see the game is evolving and that we are having fun with the DG. The problem is the current Quorum is too high and don't allow the citizens to express their will, two important issues were not settled by a vote because the Quorum was not reached and our dear President and Ministers were forced to act by themselves or to postpone their decision until a vote is organized.

[Dinner]

I'll vote for it.

[child of Thor]

Excuse my ignorance Tamerlin, but what is a Quorum exactly and just what level of height is it set to at present

or to put it another way if 15:1 for the motion isn't enough to get it through then i vote for dictatorship ovr democracy!!!