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Session Start: Sat Nov 01 21:20:54 2003
Session Ident: #Lemuria
[20:17] * Now talking in #Lemuria
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Democracy Game'
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[21:20] <Gilg> Hi maq
[21:20] <maq> hey
[21:20] <Gilg> as you might have seen iskallin is here as
well.....although not yet joined
* Logging #Lemuria to 'logs\turnchat0111.GRNet.log'
[21:20] <maq> nope havent seen
[21:21] <Gilg> He is just on Apolyton, but shall be joining shortly
[21:21] <maq> oh ok
[21:21] <Gilg> you never check first on Apolyton?
[21:22] <maq> nah, because some people "appear offline" always on 'poly, like me.
[21:22] <Gilg> tststststs..........
[21:22] <maq> hehe
[21:22] <maq> whats the channel for the source code?
[21:22] <Gilg> iskallin left Apolyton to join us...he shall be there any moment
[21:22] * iski has joined #lemuria
[21:23] <Gilg> Last time they used the normal Apolyton on
[21:23] <Gilg> Hi iskallin
[21:23] <iski> Hi you two
[21:23] <maq> hey
[21:23] <iski> hi
[21:23] <Gilg> Shall we wait a bit longer or shall we start slowly?
[21:24] <iski> Start
[21:24] <maq> nah wait
[21:24] <iski> 33% say yay
[21:24] <maq> we need enough people following game
[21:24] <iski> and 67% nay
[21:24] <Gilg>
[21:24] <maq> nice
[21:25] <Gilg> so shall we say another 5 minutes? (gives me time for smoking break)
[21:25] <maq> no wait for more people
[21:25] <Gilg> Hey, 5 minutes is a long time...........might be even a bit longer......
[21:25] <iski> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[21:26] <maq> ok then give it a while
[21:26] <Gilg> i let you know when I am back........
[21:26] <iski> Ok
[21:26] <maq> k
[21:26] <iski> What were we doing the last time?
[21:27] <maq> not much, we played about 4 turns only in 3 hours or something.
[21:27] <iski> Oh **** i'll have to quit... Be back in 30 mins most...
[21:27] <iski> Sorry
[21:27] <maq> k
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[21:29] <maq> hi IW
[21:31] <Zephyr> hi
[21:36] <Gilg> Hi IW
[21:36] <Gilg> I am back
[21:36] <Gilg> Does anyone need screenies?
[21:38] <maq> leave the screenies until the end, just post save games periodically
[21:38] <maq> wait until 9pm yet
[21:39] <Gilg> ok, no prob, was just asking ;-)
[21:39] <Gilg> We'll wait till 9 then..........
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[22:01] <iski> hi again
[22:02] <iski> how's it going
[22:02] <Gilg> just waiting till now........kind of.......
[22:02] <Gilg> So shall we start?
[22:02] <iski> 2yes
[22:03] <Gilg> maq, IW?
[22:03] <maq> sorry, upto you
[22:04] <maq> could do with locutus really
[22:04] <Gilg> Why sorry? And locutus might (maybe) join a bit later.......
[22:05] <maq> sorry i was away..... no he said he wont stay late, didnt he?
[22:05] <iski> yeah he did...
[22:05] <Gilg> who?
[22:05] <maq> locutus
[22:05] <iski> So do we have any plans at all...
[22:06] <Gilg> not really, the turn is at the end and it would be starting with a new one....
[22:06] <maq> no-one knew what time the chat was
[22:06] <iski> okay
[22:06] <iski> can we take any city
[22:06] <iski> A suggestion for our tactic...
[22:07] <Gilg> In the moment we are starting to build up an army to attack the Austrian city SW of Pilsen
[22:07] <Gilg> maq, the time was clear (more or less), but not the day
[22:07] <iski> Hit e'm with everything you got... Hit e'm fast... Hit e'm Hard... Hit e'm until they stop moving... That's logic...
[22:08] <maq> sounds more like aggression
[22:08] <Gilg> the only question is with what.......only soon we will have 3 cat's down there.......
[22:09] <Gilg> No maq, that's not agression, that's RL-politics.
[22:09] <maq> we shouldnt hit them with everything we've got, but i agree with the sentiment
[22:10] <Gilg> I wanted to get an army with 4 cat's,2A, and then whatever P orH's we've got. This should do the job
[22:10] <iski> yeap i tried that in CtC and what i got were 60 units in my back
[22:11] <Gilg> We are not using CtC, so we shall only get 1/2
[22:11] <iski> When will we see some knights in our army oh thy great one?
[22:12] <Gilg> knights?????? quite expensive.......but long termwe shall have some, after we have enough cat's I would say
[22:13] <iski> and what is the offical name of the armed forces? IAOTGL
[22:13] <Gilg> cat's take ages to move, so once we finished building cat's, we could move onto knights
[22:13] <iski> No that sounds to stupid
[22:13] <Gilg> IAOTGL? what the £^*$&^ is it?
[22:14] <iski> Imperial Army Of The Great Lemur of course
[22:14] <Gilg>
good one
[22:15] <Gilg> but as you said, doesn't sound so well.
[22:15] <iski> Well once we get knights then the war machine should begin to work
[22:16] <Gilg> Even without, we shall be able to get something running
[22:16] <iski> Yes probably.
[22:17] <Gilg> How do you think about LAoL?
[22:17] <Gilg> as a name for the Army?
[22:17] <iski> My experiance is when you start taking cities from the AI he totally collapses in a few turns
[22:17] <iski> Stands for?
[22:17] <Gilg> We already took a few cities of him, but he was able to withdraw.........
[22:17] <iski> Lemurian Army of Liberty
[22:18] <Gilg> Liberation Army of Lemuria
[22:18] <iski> Almost right
[22:18] <Gilg> both of them work
[22:18] <iski> Yes that sounds good
[22:18] <Gilg> yours or mine, which one shall we take?
[22:18] <Gilg> I can life with both......
[22:18] <iski> Me too
[22:19] <Gilg> shall I toss a coin?
[22:20] <iski> yeap
[22:20] <Zephyr> i prefer Iski's
[22:20] <Gilg> finally, somebody else........
[22:20] <Gilg> Maq?
[22:20] <Zephyr> Liberation Army of Lemuria makes it sound like Lemuria is being liberated
[22:21] <Gilg> But IW, that's what we are doing! They still havne't recognised, that they are living on our soil.
[22:21] <iski> We are "liberating" cities from the heathens
[22:21] <Gilg> iskallin
[22:22] <Zephyr> oh right. yeah. use the other one then
[22:22] <maq> Holy Lemurian Army
[22:22] <Zephyr> Liberation Army of Lemuria
[22:22] <Zephyr> doesn't really matter...
[22:23] <iski> LOL
[22:23] <Gilg> It is expressing Our desire against the peasants worldwide
[22:23] <Gilg> They shall know, that they do have options
[22:23] <maq>
[22:24] <iski> Join us or you will join us anyway!
[22:24] <Gilg> yep
[22:24] <iski> muhahahahaha
[22:24] <maq> lol
[22:24] <maq> join or.... it doesnt matter, we dont care really.
[22:25] <iski>
[22:25] <Gilg> To join or not to Join, that is not the question
[22:25] <iski>
[22:25] <maq> i think we've exhausted the join question
[22:25] <Gilg> are you sure?
[22:26] <Gilg> how about: To be joined or to join?
[22:26] <maq> join us or we'll split you in half!
[22:26] <Gilg>
[22:27] <Gilg> Anyone want's a join-venture?
[22:27] <maq> *groans*
[22:28] <Gilg> OK, shall we get joined? I mean let's start rolling?
[22:29] <maq> we could but i wont be following the game, is anyone else alt-tabbbing?
[22:29] <Gilg> yep, me!
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[22:30] <maq> i dont think iski or IW will be following
[22:30] <Zephyr> tru dat
[22:30] <Gilg> iski wanted, I think he just had a bad connection.......
[22:30] <Gilg> IW, feel ashamed!
[22:30] <Zephyr>
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[22:31] <maq> hes making the numbers up
[22:31] <Gilg>
[22:31] <Gilg> iskallin, you think you'll be able to stay with us?
[22:31] <maq> if iski follows the game we can play but if he isnt then we should reschedule or wait
[22:31] <iski> Okay nobody panic it was the computer
[22:31] <maq> *panics*
[22:31] <Gilg> always the innocent ones....
[22:32] <Gilg> maq, the emergency exit is just down the hall and out of the window
[22:33] <Gilg> OK, next turn?
[22:33] <Gilg> By the way iskallin, you have the latest savegame?
[22:33] <maq> iski are you following the turns?
[22:33] <maq> by that i mean in-game
[22:33] <iski> Yes and no and no respectfully
[22:34] <maq> ok
[22:34] <Gilg> so you would need screenies in between?
[22:34] <maq> and information of all cities, you think you can do that every turn? lol
[22:35] <iski> No i don't need it(it slows things up)
[22:35] <Gilg> I don't think iskallin will need all this all the time, but a screenie of the empire shall do it, or?
[22:35] <iski> just tell me what's happening
[22:35] <Gilg> ok........
[22:35] <Gilg> let's start?
[22:36] <Gilg> next turn?
[22:36] <iski> yes
[22:36] <iski> what about it?
[22:36] <Gilg> what about what?
[22:36] <maq> this could be a long night...
[22:36] <Gilg> haven't done anything yet....just want to get confirmation: next turn?
[22:36] <iski> it was a joke
[22:36] <Gilg>
[22:36] <iski> yes+
[22:37] <Gilg> maq?
[22:37] <maq> yeah
[22:37] <maq> keep us informed
[22:37] <Gilg> NEXT TURNComment
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[22:37] <iski> It is confirmed.. the high councill has reached a decision... It is confinrmed that we shall play one turn forward
[22:37] <Gilg> Austrian are begging for peace?
[22:38] <maq> hmmm
[22:38] <iski> Hehe
[22:38] <Gilg> Our answer: lick my shoes?
[22:38] <maq> indeed
[22:38] <Gilg> iskallin?
[22:38] <iski> And polish them to
[22:38] <Gilg>
[22:39] <Gilg> shall we try in exchange for peace to ask for Wiener Neustadt, the city we plan to attack anyway?
[22:39] <Gilg> Only an idea....
[22:39] <maq> they wont give it
[22:39] <Gilg> but won't heard or?
[22:39] <iski> Try it
[22:40] <Gilg> maq?
[22:40] <maq> you can try it
[22:40] <Gilg> ok, I try
[22:40] <Gilg> failed
[22:40] <iski> Well they are toasted anyway
[22:40] <maq> we should take all their citiees anyway
[22:41] <Gilg> OK, the news:
[22:41] <Gilg> 1 Austrian knight appeared close to Wien
[22:41] <Gilg> the German 11 stack moved south
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[22:42] <iski> Halleluja
[22:42] <Gilg> the English 10 stack is now between Wien and graz
[22:42] <Gilg> Hi Locutus
[22:42] <Locutus> hey
[22:42] <iski> Hi loc
[22:42] <iski> You haven't missed anyting
[22:42] <Gilg> the Idina settler moved a bit away from Pilsen
[22:42] <Gilg> Idina=Indian
[22:43] <Gilg> Col Loc, finished a Granary
[22:44] <iski> ok
[22:44] <Gilg> Wels a shrine
[22:44] <Gilg> Linz a theate
[22:44] <Gilg> Wombatoon a pikeman
[22:45] <iski> So basicly nothing critical
[22:45] <Gilg> don't liek that the German stack moves south to Wombatoon
[22:45] <Gilg> liek=like
[22:46] <iski> How many are in Wombatoon garrison?
[22:46] <iski> And is there a city wall or a ballista tower?
[22:46] <Gilg> sorry not Wombatoon, maquiladad
[22:47] <Gilg> It has 8 unit, 4A,4H and nothing else, next round a theater
[22:48] <iski> So our chance of victory... Keine
[22:48] <Gilg> Genau.....
[22:49] <Gilg> I am just think if we shall move the 2 stack next to Pedrunnia in the LOS of the 11 stack trying to get it close agin to Pedrunnia
[22:49] <Gilg> Might convince the AI to move after the 2 stack again
[22:49] <Gilg> sorry 4 stack
[22:50] <iski> Yeah but that won't work forever.
[22:50] <Gilg> But in Pedrunnia we have 2 cat's.......
[22:50] <Gilg> We already used then once
[22:50] <Gilg> then=them
[22:51] <iski> That should kill about one unit?
[22:52] <Gilg> yep
[22:52] <Gilg> and damage maybe another one
[22:52] <iski> ok do it
[22:53] <Gilg> by the way, screenie in the new thread
[22:53] <Gilg> http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...38#post2452340
[22:54] <iski> thankes
[22:54] <Gilg> my suggestion 4 stack SE.
[22:54] <Gilg> you are welcome ;-)
[22:55] <Gilg> maq? Locutus?
[22:56] <maq> i agree
[22:56] <iski> I suspec the evil english are plotting against our escort east of graz
[22:56] <Gilg> Shall not be really a problem, escort is on the way to Pilsen
[22:56] <iski> Ah right
[22:57] <iski> Gilg you have to write some kind of a story in the history thread
[22:57] <Gilg> I already started, but I am not so good in writing......
[22:58] <Gilg> or better to say, in making up stories.....
[22:58] <iski> great! looking forward too it
[22:59] <Gilg> I just joined the cat's in Pedrunnia to the rest of the units and fortified them
[22:59] <iski> Damnit i'll have to leave you.. comrads. good luck
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[22:59] <Gilg> if locutus would be with us, we could continue.........
[23:01] <maq> sorry im abit preoccupied at the minute
[23:01] <Gilg> feel ashamed.........
[23:01] <Locutus> bit busy right now
[23:01] <maq> ok then
[23:02] <Gilg> OK, let's say 5-10 minute break (smoking break for me ;-) )
[23:02] <Gilg> I'll let you now, when I am back again
[23:10] <Gilg> OK, i am back
[23:15] <Gilg> I already checked for some changes in the city managment:
[23:15] <Gilg> Col loc: -1 F
[23:15] <Gilg> Wels -4 F
[23:15] <Locutus> I could chat, but I don't have the game running and I'm alt-tabbing with Visual Studio
[23:15] <Locutus> well, I have the game running, but not the Demo Game
[23:16] <Gilg> Maquiladad: 1E 1F
[23:16] <Gilg> Locutus, I did already post a screenie, so shall be OK, or?
[23:16] <Gilg> Wien: 1E 3F (meaning 2F)
[23:16] <Gilg> all those changes will not influence production
[23:17] <Gilg> And Locutus, shame on you, still trying to figure out how to screw the game?
[23:17] <Locutus> how's that?
[23:17] <Gilg> how what?
[23:18] <Locutus> that i'm trying to ruin the game?Comment
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[23:18] <Gilg> checking the source.....
[23:18] <maq> i dont think anyone would disagree your time is better spent on the source code, locutus.
[23:18] <Locutus> right...
[23:19] <Gilg> saying in tech: Don't fix, what is running ;-)
[23:19] <Locutus> I would chat rather than work on the source if it wasn't for this annoying bug preventing me from running the game in any other build than debug
[23:19] <Gilg>
[23:20] <Gilg> Are you sure it is a bug and not design intended?
[23:20] <Locutus> uhm, the game is designed to crash to desktop as soon as you start playing?
[23:21] <Gilg> why not? Kind of a game as well.....let's see what is more durable(?)
[23:22] <Locutus> right...
[23:23] <Gilg> OK, back to the DG: Escort continues to Linz?
[23:24] <Locutus> yeah
[23:25] <Gilg> maq?
[23:25] <Locutus> oh, if you want to make sure I read something, make sure to include my name (locutus, loc, wouter). I have mIRC set up to highlight lines with my name in it
[23:25] <Gilg> OK, no prob
[23:27] <Gilg> moved
[23:27] <Gilg> Locutus, Providence chasing the Austrian settler which came out of Weiner Neustadt, or further exploring the north?
[23:29] <maq> sorry was busy
[23:29] <Locutus> good one. dunno, chase it for now I guess...
[23:30] <Gilg> maq
[23:30] <maq> i concur
[23:30] <Gilg> chasing?
[23:31] <Gilg> cat between Linz and Pilsen moved further to Pilsen.
[23:32] <maq> yeah
[23:33] <Gilg> the H on our S-border, which found the goodiehut, move NE? The Archer shall chase the Indian settler?
[23:33] <Gilg> Locutus?
[23:33] <Gilg> maq?
[23:33] <Locutus> what was in the hut?
[23:33] <Gilg> That's where we found republic and buro......
[23:34] <Locutus> ah, yes. remember now.
[23:34] <Gilg> Shall we move the pikeman from Wombatoon to Maquiladad?
[23:34] <Locutus> move it out of indian territory if it isn't already. then go back to pilsen
[23:34] <Gilg> we are just on the border
[23:35] <Locutus> no, we need pikemen for assaulting austria
[23:35] <Gilg> ok, pikeman to the front
[23:35] <Gilg> What about the archer?
[23:36] <Gilg> Locutus? maq?
[23:37] <maq> hmmm which?
[23:38] <Locutus> yes, which?
[23:38] <Gilg> The archer which is NE of Pilsen and looking out for the settler.
[23:38] <maq> ah, follow the settler?
[23:39] <Gilg> What I planned, also we might have a better wie onto the English 10 stack
[23:39] <Gilg> wie=view
[23:39] <maq> sounds good
[23:39] <Gilg> ok
[23:39] <Gilg> North?
[23:40] <maq> yeah
[23:40] <Locutus> fine
[23:41] <Gilg> Pikeman moving to the front, the single hoplite moving back to Pilsen. Grouping all units in H Town?
[23:41] <maq> yeah
[23:41] <Gilg> What shall we do with our 6 stack between Graz and Pedrunnia? Leave it?
[23:42] <maq> if its not in direct danger
[23:42] <Gilg> no, it is backup
[23:43] <maq> oh ok leave it then
[23:43] <Gilg> end turn? Locutus
[23:43] <Gilg> anyone savegame?
[23:43] <Locutus> k, end. no save
[23:43] <maq> yeah end
[23:44] <Gilg> I just changed science down to 20%, as we will still finish concrete next turn..........
[23:44] <maq> good idea
[23:45] <Gilg> make money when it lays on the street, or something like that
[23:45] <maq> makes sense enough
[23:45] <Gilg> END TURN
[23:45] <maq> k
[23:47] <Gilg> research:
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[23:49] <Gilg> with 20 percent, don't forget
[23:49] <maq> yeah
[23:49] * LoQtS is now known as Locutus
[23:49] <Gilg> Shipbuilding: 8 turns
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[23:49] <Gilg> Agricul. Rev: 42
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[23:49] <Gilg> Theologie(sp?) 56
[23:49] <Gilg> Education(?) 63
[23:50] <maq> hmmm
[23:50] <Gilg> My suggestion would be Agr. Rev., what do you think?
[23:50] <Gilg> Locutus?
[23:50] <maq> yeah me too
[23:50] <Gilg> After this I think the next one is either Theo. or Ship......
[23:50] <Locutus> 2I missed a few due to irc crashes, I think. theology, education, what else?
[23:50] <Gilg> ship and Agr. rev
[23:50] <Locutus> agre
[23:50] <Gilg> with what?
[23:51] <Gilg> Agr. Rev?
[23:51] <Locutus> 2yes
[23:51] <Gilg> OK
[23:51] <Gilg> 14 turns with full power........
[23:51] <Gilg> we have 7417 gold by the way....
[23:52] <Gilg> save/screenie?
[23:52] <maq> nope
[23:52] <Locutus> nah
[23:53] <Gilg> OK.....
[23:53] <Gilg> One worry, what do we need to attack a single knight on a swamp?
[23:53] <Gilg> 1P/1H/2A?
[23:54] <Gilg> The Austrian knight moved onto our raod to Graz.......and we just finished a pikeman in Wien
[23:54] <Gilg> Locutus, maq?
[23:54] <maq> no need to attack
[23:55] <Gilg> We want to get this pikeman to the front and the quickest way is on the road.....
[23:55] <Locutus> if you attack, do it in big numbers, like 6 units. prevents damage
[23:56] <Gilg> We have 12 units in Wien: 6A/5H/1P
[23:56] <Gilg> So, shall we get rid of the Knight with 3A/2H/1P? With the plan to move the P afterwards to the front?
[23:57] <Gilg> And the rest back to Wien again?
[23:57] <Locutus> if there are no other stacks nearby I guess we could attack. but where's the english stack?
[23:57] <Gilg> By the way, screenie in here :http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...30#post2452500
[23:57] <Gilg> followed our Escort
[23:59] <Locutus> by all means attack
[23:59] <Gilg> OK.......maq?
[23:59] <maq> yeah may aswell
[00:01] <Gilg> P on 50% strength, mission accomplished
[00:01] <maq> 50% ouch
[00:01] <Gilg> We have to wait a bit anyway before we have the 4 cat's.......
[00:02] <Gilg> Question: Escort back to wien for the next cat and the Pikeman joining with the catapult?
[00:02] <Gilg> Locutus?
[00:03] <Gilg> maq?
[00:03] <maq> yeah that sounds alright
[00:04] <Locutus> agree
[00:04] <Gilg> I'll do so......
[00:05] <Gilg> Catapult moved closer to Pilsen, Providence is chasing the settler, hoplite on the way back to Pislen
[00:06] <Gilg> 4 stack near Pedrunnia N? Hopefully the 11 stack will still chase it.........
[00:06] <Gilg> maq? Locutus?
[00:08] <Locutus> what's the point of the 11 stack chasing it again?
[00:09] <Gilg> If it get's close to Pedrunnia, we can use our WMD's
[00:10] <Gilg> Locutus, maq?
[00:10] <Locutus> ah, good point. then go nw if possible, stay as close to the german stack as possible (without getting within striking range, of course)
[00:12] <Gilg> NW would be out of range for the cat's......the only way would be north, so that if it follows noth it is in bombard range
[00:12] <Locutus> i meant ne, but n is fine with me
[00:12] <Gilg> NE would be Pedrunnia
[00:13] <Gilg> Just recognised, not good visible in the screenie.........
[00:13] <Gilg> maq?
[00:13] <maq> either is good
[00:13] <maq>
[00:14] <Gilg> ok, moving north
[00:14] <Gilg> chasing Archer N of Pilsen continues North? Chasing the Indian settler?
[00:15] <Gilg> Locutus? Maq?
[00:19] <Gilg> proposed changes for city managment:
[00:19] <Gilg> Press: 1E 3F
[00:19] <Gilg> Wien: 1E 0F
[00:20] <Gilg> Locutus ? Maq ?
[00:20] <Locutus> afk
[00:28] <Gilg> Locutus ? Maq?
[00:30] <maq> sorry i was away, im not sure what changed are needed
[00:30] <maq> *changes
[00:32] <Gilg> chasing Archer N of Pilseon N?
[00:32] <Gilg> continue to chase the indian settler?
[00:32] <Gilg> changes to cities:
[00:32] <Gilg> Pressburg 1E 3F
[00:32] <Gilg> Wien 1E 0F
[00:33] <Gilg> Locutus ? Maq ?
[00:33] <maq> ok, ok, and ok
[00:33] <Gilg>
[00:33] <maq>
[00:33] <Gilg> One OK would have been sufficent for me
[00:34] <maq> sorry im a little busy gilg, youre doing a pretty good job though
[00:35] <Gilg> thank you. I am trying to do my best.
[00:35] <maq> im sure you can stop when you want though
[00:35] <Gilg> The only thing I am not sure about, if I will continue for the moment.
[00:36] <Gilg> As you and Locutus seem to be sidetracked
I think I will stop
[00:36] <maq> lol
[00:36] <maq> its fine, maybe if we arrange earlier for the next chat
[00:36] <Gilg> I will post save and I think I call it a day.
[00:36] <maq> ok then
[00:36] <Gilg> I wanted to, but stupid work went in the way
[00:37] <Gilg> I am thinking of planning one again next weekend
[00:37] <Gilg> But I'll start a threat tonight for it..........
[00:37] <maq> ok
[00:38] <Gilg> The information I'll post later in the turn-chat thread and general achievment
[00:39] <Gilg> For the moment I'll only post the save
[00:39] <maq> ok then
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