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Call To Power 2 Cradle 3+ mod in progress: https://apolyton.net/forum/other-games/call-to-power-2/ctp2-creation/9437883-making-cradle-3-fully-compatible-with-the-apolyton-edition
In my religion concept, I don't have growing religions like you do. You can't convert another Civ's cities to your religion. Oh, there'll still be clerics, but not in the use you've used.
Here it is! The first playable build of The Ages of Man!
There isn't exactly too much different from original CTP2 (it even still uses the original AI ) but we all need a beginning.
Installing:
- Requires CTP2, CTP2 Patch, SAP v2.0 (for the graphical elements which I didn't put in the zip).
- Download the attached zip file.
- Unzip to your Call to Power 2 directory.
- Select through ModSwapper.
Active elements:
- Colonisation. No longer is the Settler necessary to expand your empire's borders. The level of your government's encouragement (see Gov Policies below), will influence where and how often a colonist will leave a city and begin a new settlement! Colonists being as individual as you are, will assess the surrounding lands of the city they were built in, and give each area a "score" based on what's available at/near that square. If a high score is attained, then the colonist will pack their bags, and move to the new location. When they build their new settlement, it becomes a new city in your empire, with all the normal rights, demands and needs. Colonists love the following: goods; rivers to bath in; plains, grassland, forests for food and wood; fortifications or military presence for defense; coastal squares for fishing; being within the Civ's current borders. Colonists avoid the following: enemy military presence; close to other cities; desserts or swamps; the middle of the sea. These are your boundaries for indirectly influencing colonists (EG: building a fortification with military units on a coastal/grassland/river/goods square will be very attractive to a colonist, especially if it's not next to an existing city).
- Government Policies. In your first built city (not necessarily the capital mind you), on the Buildings tab, is a new buildable element called Government Policies. It only takes one turn to build, and is buildable as many times as you require to change your policy. Once built, you will be presented with the option to encourage Land, Coastal or No colonisation (note: this encouragement doesn't guarentee adherence ). If you opt to go with Land or Coastal encouragement, you can then choose whether you want Fast, Normal or Slow colonisation. By choosing one of these options, you are using your only means to directly influence colonisation.
- Maps. I have played around with the maps a fair bit, and have settled on what I see as a very good setting for Huge and Gigantic maps. I hope you enjoy them.
- Governments. Due to almost unanimous support, I have upped the government city maxs a lot. This will most likely change before final release. But it at least gives a setting where you can bloodlust to your hearts content on the huge and gigantic maps.
PLEASE NOTE:
You MUST have the SAP installed and running to use this Alpha of AOM. This is because I have not included the city sprites, diplo-photos and other graphical elements active in AOM. This will be done at a later stage. Basically, I wanted to keep the zip size down.
Please feel free to have a play around with this Alpha and make some suggestions. BTW, try it with DebugSlic=Yes. I don't get any errors, but I want to make sure on other systems/setups.
Yeah, religion could be very messy if you ignore the Pope. BTW, your suggestion on units is good, but I don't want anyone to know the different upgrades. EG: If you're looking at an AI's tank, untill you fight it, how are you supposed to know it has Laser-Radar-Guided-Nuclear-Tipped-Copper-Plated-High-Explosive rockets to your standard HE round? It adds to the suspense.
I didn't mean on the actual Sprite - just the sprite 'tile' - the bit that appears on the UI when you click on your unit, and the bit you use to move your units around within your armies. Agreed the last thing you want is to see it on the field of play!!!! Just so the player can keep track on which of his units have been upgraded or not - or maybe the upgrade thing works differently?
'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.
Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.
I'm amazed. This is just about a new game I get here!
I played with DebugSlic=Yes and got no errors. I've just got two things to mention:
-I had a unit fortified on a great tile when a barbarian attacked it and just the moment I lost I saw for a brief instance the flicker of a new city. Were my colonist just about to try to settle there?! What a pity - but actually, I wouldn't chnage anything to that.
-The second thing is more grave. The diplomod included is that Peter's or is this your work Dale? I got a request for a research pact and accepted it and afterwards I even had an embassy with that player. Problem is - that's just plain impossible, bureaucracy not researched on either side and when I got the request I actually only had a cease fire with that ceratin player.
Ok automatic upgrade - that makes it easy to keep track of. How much will it cost? will it work like in med mod - ie require you to pre-plan the cost and save it up or you lose the chance to upgrade most your units? or will you have an option to upgrade when you like? or will it be a free upgrade? How you going to do it cause of the different versions of the upgrade option we've got(ie the medmod and craddle versions i'm thinking of), neither one is very player friendly.
Maybe i'm being too 'anal' about it! I just like the idea of upgrading a units stats as opposed to just getting a whole different sprite - in the long run i think this option will give more depth to the combat in CTP2, and will maybe help flesh out those annoying periods when you just can't invent anything new for decades and longer!
I'll download as soon as i can(maybe this weekend), mapfi sounds to be enjoying it so far!
'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.
Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.
when I got the request I actually only had a cease fire with that ceratin player.
It's set up so that whenever a ceasefire is accepted, diplomatic relations (mutual embassies) are established automatically.
This was one of the first things I did. Last Summer (2001) I had some very simple code that would establish mutual embassies after a war. It was really a follow on from CTP1 because there I noticed a correlation between AIcivs that were diplomatically isolated and those that were scientifically underdeveloped. It's not so important in CTP2 since we can now control the conditions under which they offer and accept embassies.
Actually, the version you've got here is, I think, the very first version that got posted. As I recall it's far too easy to get research pacts with this version but I'm pretty sure I toned this down and posted a better version in the same thread as the one where this started from.
One problem was that when the AI tried to contact me to make a demand etc the proposal would automatically disappear at the end of the AI's turn.
This, unfortunatly, looks like it may be an unsolvable problem. I tried everything I could think of to try to stop that happenning but never could do it. It's not, btw, limited to the NewDiplomod code. I regularly get it when I'm working on other mods where I haven't messed with the diplomacy events at all.
This, unfortunatly, looks like it may be an unsolvable problem. I tried everything I could think of to try to stop that happenning but never could do it. It's not, btw, limited to the NewDiplomod code. I regularly get it when I'm working on other mods where I haven't messed with the diplomacy events at all.
Yeah, happens with the colonisation code if you got auto-turns running. I can't stop it either.
But thanks for your answers, I'll look for the latest version.
well, wanted to try this out tonight, but unfortunately i seem missing pics and get targa load errors, as soon as i click on the buildings row in buildmanager:
cm2_upip016l.tga
well actually its the same error message three times then the game terminates
where do i get that (and maybe other missing ones) ?
thank you so far for the great job all of your modders are doing, was quite a good idea to reinstall ctp2 and having a look back to apolyton after such a long time
I didn't include any of the graphics (would have made the zip over a meg), but all the graphics come from SAP2. If you have that installed, there should be no problem.
how exactly is the spot for a new city chosen?
i agree that lots of grassland at a river is a much finer place than coastal swamps, but only 2 fields from citycenter to citycenter?
disbanded the third city which was placed directly between the first and the second and had to make that settler look for a spot the old fashioned way ( you see i really love this idea and already got used to it ) but the fourth city appeared at the same place again.
this is a bit annyoing.
Yeah, it does need a little work. I have actually fixed it so those little things don't happen. The worst bug I found was it didn't check for other player's cities, and would try to put one of mine on top of an AI's. Very frustrating that one. But the next version is a whole lot better.
) but we all need a beginning. 
). If you opt to go with Land or Coastal encouragement, you can then choose whether you want Fast, Normal or Slow colonisation. By choosing one of these options, you are using your only means to directly influence colonisation.
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