Babarian Encampments SLIC idea

[SMIFFGIG]

I was just wondering weather or not it would be possible for the barbarians to have encampments as in civ3 (as much as i hate that game, it does have some *few* good points)

These encampments would only appear outside a civilizations boarders (to the best of my knowledge babarians only appear outside the boarders anyway unless from hut) and would at a pretty slow rate create fairly crap babarian units with one unit always in it defending and the others built sent out to explore or whatever.

if u attacked the encampment and succeseded then there would be a small reward as in gold or whatever and it would simply disappear off the map (as in a destroyed city) and another one would randomly appear somewhere else.

If this randomly appearing wouldnt work, would it be possible to do the same only have the encampments randomly layed at the start (or a settler like unit that built these encampments at the start but was invisible) OR settler units that randomly appear through the game that build them ?



I would like to think it would somehow be possible


SMIFFGIG

[HuangShang]

not a bad idea im for it

[Pedrunn]

Here it is a code i have just made. For a better graphic i suggest a new city style has to be created for barbarians. Any grphic suggestion?

This code creates a camp (city) in the unit location with the same size of the stack when the barabrians ends its turn.
When the unit moves the the citys is killed.
So far no bonus for the player who kills the camp.

HandleEvent(EndTurn) 'CreateBarbarianCamp' pre {			// When the player turn ends
int_t i;
	if(player[0] == 0) {						//if player is barbarian
		for(i=o; i <= player[0].armies; i = i + 1) {		
			GetArmyByIndex(player[0], i, army[0]);		// In all its armies
			CreateCity(0,army[0].location, 0, city[0]);	// create a city in its location
			if(CityIsValid(city[0])) {			// if city was created 
				value[0] = GetUnitsAtLocation (army[0].location); 
				value[1] = value[0] - 1;		// The number of units
				AddPops(city[0], value[1]);		// becomes the size of the city
			}
		}
	}
}

HandleEvent(MoveUnits) 'KillBarbarianCamp' pre {			// When a army moves
int_t i;
player[0] = army[0].owner;						// check army player owner 
	if(player[0] == 0) {						// if player is barbarian
		location[0] = army[0].location;				// Get its location
		GetCityByLocation(location[0], city[0]);		// and check if there is a city
		if(CityIsValid(city[0])) {				// If there is 
			for (i = 0; i <= city[0].population; i=i+1){	// 
				Event: KillPop(city[0]);		// Kill City
			}
		}
	}
}

PS: not tested so it may contain bugs. I am waiting your word if it worked or not .

[ahenobarb]

There's a small typo in line 4. It should say i=0 instead of i=o.

I tried the code in a saved game where there were lots of barbarians about, but the code had no effect. It's still a great idea though!

[Martin Gühmann]

Originally posted by Pedrunn
Here it is a code i have just made. For a better graphic i suggest a new city style has to be created for barbarians. Any grphic suggestion?

Of course Civ3 even if the graphics of this game don't have the high quality of CTP2 graphics (8bit Civ3 in comparision 16bit CTP2)

Originally posted by Pedrunn
This code creates a camp (city) in the unit location with the same size of the stack when the barabrians ends its turn.
When the unit moves the the citys is killed.
So far no bonus for the player who kills the camp.

Actual I would prefer a tile improvement. One of the fort like it would have a different border radius, you could use some slic code create at this loacation randomly units. And finally no city name would be displayed.

-Martin

[Pedrunn]

Originally posted by Martin Gühmann
Actual I would prefer a tile improvement. One of the fort like it would have a different border radius, you could use some slic code create at this loacation randomly units. And finally no city name would be displayed.

Tile imps were my first thougth but i did not want the units to appear over the hut. But there is also the problem of conserving the borders of the civ what makes the city idea only workable in unclaimed terrain.
I also thaught in addind a city-like unit to the army. but i dont know how to make it be the unit of the army to appear in the map

I guess we may have to stick to the Tile Imp idea.

[ahenobarb]

Does anyone have any idea why this code would not have an effect in the game? When I included it in the script.txt, it informed me about the typo, so I know that the game "read" the code, but it did not "excute" it.

[Pedrunn]

Try adding this line under the line int_t i; of the EndTurn event.

player[0] = g.player;

[Immortal Wombat]

Try using "beginturn" instead of "endturn" - maybe CreateCity handlers can only fire on the turn of the player whose city it is?

[Peter Triggs]

ahenobarb,

You should have got some 'wrong type of argument' errors because you can't use functions like GetArmyByIndex(int, int, armyVar) and GetCityByLocation(location, cityVar) with BuiltIn army or city variables: they must be user defined variables like 'tmpArmy' and 'tmpCity'. Make sure you've got DebugSlic=yes.

[ahenobarb]

It looks like I am birthing Pedrunn's calf, but here is the revised code generated from the comments everyone included here. BTW, Immortal Wombat, I used your suggestion and changed EndTurn to BeginTurn and back again, but it still didn't do anything.

HandleEvent(EndTurn) 'CreateBarbarianCamp' pre { // When the player turn ends
int_t i;
army_t tmpArmy;
city_t tmpCity;

player[0] = g.player;
if(player[0] == 0) { //if player is barbarian
for(i=0; i <= player[0].armies; i = i + 1) {
GetArmyByIndex(player[0], i, tmpArmy); // In all its armies
CreateCity(0,tmpArmy.location, 0, tmpCity); // create a city in its location
if(CityIsValid(tmpCity)) { // if city was created
value[0] = GetUnitsAtLocation (tmpArmy.location);
value[1] = value[0] - 1; // The number of units
AddPops(city[0], value[1]); // becomes the size of the city
}
}
}
}

HandleEvent(MoveUnits) 'KillBarbarianCamp' pre { // When a army moves
int_t i;
army_t tmpArmy;
city_t tmpCity;

player[0] = g.player; // check army player owner
if(player[0] == 0) { // if player is barbarian
location[0] = tmpArmy.location; // Get its location
GetCityByLocation(location[0], tmpCity); // and check if there is a city
if(CityIsValid(tmpCity)) { // If there is
for (i = 0; i <= tmpCity.population; i=i+1){ //
Event: KillPop(tmpCity); // Kill City
}
}
}
}


I was looking over Pedrunn's other code regarding religion that he is working on with mapfi and others (you know the thread ) and he said he has concerns about the CreateCity function, which is also used here. perhaps it's the culprit?

[SMIFFGIG]

Hey, nice lot of replies here hope it can be implemented


for the graphics i was thinking of the village one thats used in the samuari scenario, i think that looks perfect from what i can remember

[Pedrunn]

Try this one. I think it will work now.
Note: The part with // is to prevent the barbs to. mess up borders by creating city over them. If works with them. try without them.
Note2: I changed the MoveUnit event for BeginTurn. This mean that all barbarian cities are going to be destroyed every turn. This makes more sense since barbarians are supposed to be nomads.

HandleEvent(EndTurn) 'CreateBarbarianCamp' pre {			// When the player turn ends
int_t i;
int_t tmpPlayer;
int_t ArmyCount;
int_t CitySize;
army_t	tmpArmy;
city_t	tmpCity;
location_t tmpLoc;

player[0] = g.player;
	if(player[0] == 0) {
		ArmyCount = player[0].armies; 
		for(i=0; i <= ArmyCount; i = i + 1) {		
			tmpPlayer = player[0];
			GetArmyByIndex(tmpPlayer, i, tmpArmy);		// In all its armies
			tmpLoc = tmpArmy.location;
//			if(CellOwner(tmpLoc) == -1) {			// if unit is in unclaimed land
				CreateCity(0, tmpLoc, 0, tmpCity);	// create a city in its location
				if(CityIsValid(tmpCity)) {			// if city was created 
					CitySize = GetUnitsAtLocation (tmpLoc) - 1;  // The number of units
					AddPops(tmpCity, CitySize);		// becomes the size of the city
				}
//			}
		}
	}
}

HandleEvent(BeginTurn) 'KillBarbarianCamp' pre {			
int_t i;
int_t tmpPlayer;
int_t CityCount;
int_t CitySize;
city_t	tmpCity;

tmpPlayer = g.player;
	if(tmpPlayer == 0) {
		CityCount = PlayerCityCount(tmpPlayer); 
		for(i=0; i <= CityCount; i = i + 1) {		
			GetCityByIndex(tmpPlayer, i, tmpCity);		
			city[0] = tmpCity;
			if(CityIsValid(city[0])) {				
				for (i = 0; i <= city[0].population; i=i+1) {	
					if(CityIsValid(city[0])) {
						Event: KillPop(city[0]);		
					}
				}
			}
		}
	}
}

EDIT: Found a typo.

[SMIFFGIG]

Hey great, i hope this does work, i havent actually tested it as i dont know how

the thing is, im not sure if it is a good idea to have the barb encampments destroyed every turn,

1. Cause the only way ull be able to kill the encampment if u manage to find one by luck, otherwise ull probably never get to kill one as it would have disappeared by the time u get there

2. This would mean they would not be able to build units out of the encampment as it would disappear

3. Gets rid of the need to try and kill them as they will never be any threat


I understand what ur saying about them being nomads but i would say that if u do want them to disappear it should definitly be way more turns than 1 at least as much for them to be able to build one unit out of them, also i was thinking how about using the militia code so there is always one unit in the encampment (as in Civ3)

Personly i dont think that they should dissapear and reappear at all

[SMIFFGIG]

Correction

I do want them to reappear just not dissappear