Wonder Possibilities

[The Big Mc]

Hi I cant seam to get my head around this idea of you having trouble with tile imps

When I made my undersea fortification using a moded version of the force filed work fine

Oh and the pyramids under the sea in Japan it’s a harbour from the ice age

[Immortal Wombat]

Originally posted by Locutus
WAIT A F*CKING MINUTE!!!!!!! I know this is off-topic but I've been looking for this for this over 18 months!!! (now, where's that : party : smilie when you need it?)

That is indeed great news! So if we can get the other 4 working, we can mod unit stats whilst in the game? That would be great.
The party smilie is on Civfanatics btw...

Big MC, did you alter the improvement graphics and add it into a modded tile file? Or was it already there?

[Pedrunn]

Yet you must remember to make this tile improvement impossible to be pillaged.

This is for sure a terrific idea.
The tile improvement should also give a add in gold (tourism).

[Immortal Wombat]

Oh yeah, one more thing, the Lighthouse and Colossus would look great on the map, but wouldn't work unless they were limited to cities bordering water.

And adding these landmark wonders would constitute a major reworking of the wonder tree. Would these be a MedMod/Cradle addon?

[Pedrunn]

Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
I agree, there shouldn't be a hard-coded limit, but wherever I add the new tile imps, it displays as roads :/

You coul change the terrain instead of add tile improvements.

[hexagonian]

This would be so cool to be able to add the Wonder visual to the map....if this can be set up, I would get it into Cradle in a heartbeat.

BTW, Leonidas, is that top pic of the Mexican pyramids from Chichen Itza? I visited that site on my honeymoon (back in '86). Incredible place...

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
And adding these landmark wonders would constitute a major reworking of the wonder tree. Would these be a MedMod/Cradle addon?

Don't have much time to work things out right now, but I certainly would want this in HoC, I already planned on re-doing the whole Wonder concept anyway...

[Leonidas]

Originally posted by The Big Mc
Oh and the pyramids under the sea in Japan it’s a harbour from the ice age

The Big Mc: Hi

Just curious where you learned that. It seems to be a very sophisticated looking structure to have been created so far back in time. . .

[Leonidas]

Originally posted by hexagonian
This would be so cool to be able to add the Wonder visual to the map....if this can be set up, I would get it into Cradle in a heartbeat.

BTW, Leonidas, is that top pic of the Mexican pyramids from Chichen Itza? I visited that site on my honeymoon (back in '86). Incredible place...

hexagonian: I agree - if you guys can add Wonders to the map in CTP2, you will have created a first in TBS games; no other civ/strategy game has accomplished this. . .

Some of the Wonders could even take up 2 or 3 tiles depending on the Wonder. For example, the Mexican Pyramid style could replicate the Pyramid of the Sun and Moon complex as noted in the pic above. This was a huge complex of pyramids. On the map, this would look awesome. . .

We are only limited by our imaginations. . .

Imagine huge, free-standing Stelas, statutes, Complexes, Buildings. . .

I think that pic is from Chichen Itza. But there are tons of pyramids scatterd throughout Mexico and Central/South America. . . I agree. Incredible place. I think there is still so much we still need to learn about the past, and these cultures. . .

I love ancient history and could spend hours reading/looking at this stuff

BTW, they are in the process of building a new Great Library in Egypt. . .

[Leonidas]

Originally posted by Locutus


Don't have much time to work things out right now, but I certainly would want this in HoC, I already planned on re-doing the whole Wonder concept anyway...

Locutus: I looked through your HoC - I'm impressed with the work you have put into this concept. You HAVE been busy. . .

[Leonidas]

It is interesting that one of the Mexican Pyramids (called the Pyramid of the Sun) is actually larger than the Great Pyramid at Ghiza.

No one knows who actually built it or what it was actually called. When the Aztecs made their appearance, this pyramid was already very ancient in age. . .

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Leonidas
Just curious where you learned that. It seems to be a very sophisticated looking structure to have been created so far back in time. . .

Actually, it's not even proven that those structures are manmade. We don't have the slightest clue on their age. The location where these structures were first discovered (they have been found in other places as well since then) are located is off the coast of Yonaguni. Some interesting links:
Morien Institute (claims they are natural structures)
Graham Hancock's website (a fierce defender of the 'lost civilization' theory)
Crystalinks (IMNSHO a bunch New Age weirdo's but they know how to do their homework)
Robert Schoch's website (undecided on the issue)

(Note that I already included it as Wonder in HoC, says enough about how I feel about the issue )

[Leonidas]

Originally posted by Locutus


Actually, it's not even proven that those structures are manmade. We don't have the slightest clue on their age. The location where these structures were first discovered (they have been found in other places as well since then) are located is off the coast of Yonaguni. Some interesting links:
Morien Institute (claims they are natural structures)
Graham Hancock's website (a fierce defender of the 'lost civilization' theory)
Crystalinks (IMNSHO a bunch New Age weirdo's but they know how to do their homework)
Robert Schoch's website (undecided on the issue)

(Note that I already included it as Wonder in HoC, says enough about how I feel about the issue )

Locutus: I agree with the undecided nature of the debate regarding these underwater structures. No one really knows. . .

But those structures certainly have right-angled shapes, which is something rarely seen in nature.

BTW, did you ever see Hancock's "In Search of the Lost Civilization"? It was a 4-part series on TV. While I don't necessarily agree with all of his conclusions, he did present a fascinating visual guide to all of the major ancient sites around the world. . .

Here's a link to many underwater structures found around the world:

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:v4thYOtstA4C:www.abc.se/~pa/uwa/submerge.htm+ancient+underwater+structures&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=ISO-8859-1

Who says there's no mystery left in the world?

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Leonidas
It is interesting that one of the Mexican Pyramids (called the Pyramid of the Sun) is actually larger than the Great Pyramid at Ghiza.

The Pyramid in Giza is higher, the one is Teotihuacan has more volume. I think the White Pyramid in China beats both their @sses in both size and volume...

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Leonidas
BTW, did you ever see Hancock's "In Search of the Lost Civilization"? It was a 4-part series on TV. While I don't necessarily agree with all of his conclusions, he did present a fascinating visual guide to all of the major ancient sites around the world. . .

Heck, I think I even read one of his books (but that was a long time ago and my memory has more holes than Swiss cheese ). Yes, his theories are interesting but sometimes a little far-fetched and silly.
One example: I think it was him - but it could have been someone else - who found out that 91 was a recurring number in numerous temples and pyramids and stuff around the world and claimed that this was evidence of a lost civilization. However, 91 * 4 + 1 = 365, so it's not all that remarkable, really
But there are plenty of other issues in which Hancock and other people with 'far-out' ideas (such as e.g. Clyde Winters) have a point, something that other historians and archeologists ought to take more seriously, IMHO...

Here's a link to many underwater structures found around the world:

Cool, I didn't know that particular site yet. Added to my favourites