The Wonder of Wonders......

[gigapimp3001]

Today I shall be turning my hand to modding some Wonders. Is there a FAQ or readme on the subject somewhere that tells me what can and cannot be done, how to insert picture, icon and possibly media files (i`m feeling lucky!) without going through the same nightmare that I did with units.

For example would it be possible to create a Manhatten Project style wonder in the mold of Civ?

[Pedrunn]

This may help you. It is the list of effects that exist in for wonders.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50732

Still if you cant find effect you want we can simulate through slic.

[Immortal Wombat]

There is a modder's guide on hex's website that might help

[Martin Gühmann]

Yeah the effect of the Civ2 Manhatten Project could be simulated for the units, and the order lay nuclear bomb could be at least disabled as long as no civ own that wonder. Unfortunatly it can't be hidden as long as you don't have the wonder.

-Martin

[SMIFFGIG]

I remember the Manhatten Project that was cool

Another thing i think is good is the small wonders in Civ3, like heroic epic that makes more chance of leaders appearing and the fact you can only get it when a leader wins a battle.
Would be cool if you make this and other small wonders like Civ3, specially now that leaders will be available for ctp2 cause mapfi and i think pedrunn where/are working on them.

And great iron works etc etc, wonder if there is a thread somewhere on the civ3 forums that lists what all the wonders and mini wonders in civ3 do. Could be of some use to you

gigapimp2001
You maybe interested in the what I posted in the HotW thread?

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1341378&t=9510#post1341378

[gigapimp3001]

Thanks for the responses everyone!

on the matter of small wonders it would be good to have a wonder than gives an advantage to a city , say 200% production, food, or science etc that would make it more strategic but not give the civilisation an excessive boost.

[Dale]

WAW has the Manhatten Project. Buildable only by democracies/communists, and allows the nuke unit.

[gigapimp3001]

Oh cool! Is that just as simple as cut a pasting from your Mod (which i have plundered for my own amusement!) the Wonder text and fiddling with the icons?

Also I`ve heard rumors that you can only have 30 wonders. Can anyone put me out of my misery....

[Devil of Truth]

THREADJACK

Once, I created a “Conscripted Labour” unit. I used this to assist in the construction of Wonders. The unit would cost a bundle to build and maintain; decrease population (slaves); and would move very slowly (lazy sods ). I would send this unit to a city building a Wonder, and disband it. This way, I could produce a Wonder much quicker by throwing “slaves” at it. Not very elegant, I know.

Only problem, the AI has no idea how to use the unit , it’s not all that thrilling to slaughter indentured servants wandering around aimlessly.

An improvement would be if the unit causes major unhappiness, and could add to construction without needing to be disbanded. The little SLIC I know makes me believe this can be done, right?

[SMIFFGIG]

Cant remember who it was (mapfi i think) said that he had nearly completed his great leaders code (like in civ3) there other option for great leaders was exactly what you said (help build wonders)

Im not sure if hes done this yet but if not he might want to look at your code

P.S. Rather than disbanding him and getting production, before the unit enters a city there should be an option like :

Help build wonder
Carry on moving

of course this would only happen when trying to move into cities which are building wonders

[Devil of Truth]

Originally posted by SMIFFGIG

P.S. Rather than disbanding him and getting production, before the unit enters a city there should be an option like :

Help build wonder
Carry on moving

Like the caravan unit in Civ2. That’s where I got the idea originally.

Originally posted by SMIFFGIG

of course this would only happen when trying to move into cities which are building wonders

I would prefer a unit that can assist in building anything, even city improvements – at the price of severe unhappiness.

[Maquiladora]

I think the caravan was way too powerful in civ2, thats all i would build eventually. You can already disband military units over a city to add production, and disband settlers for a pop point.

[Maquiladora]

Would be great if several cities could work on seperate parts of a wonder to complete it. If you wanted to build the Great Wall for example, each city should have to build parts of it, abit like the Gaia Controller needs controller core and power satellites. A wonder could be a Empire wide effort then.

[Devil of Truth]

Originally posted by Maquiladora
I think the caravan was way too powerful in civ2, thats all i would build eventually. You can already disband military units over a city to add production, and disband settlers for a pop point.

I agree. Using caravans was too close to “cheating” for my liking (but I did it anyway ). And I doubt the AI had the know-how to implement it properly.

The distinction in using a labour unit, as opposed to using a military or settler unit, would be the unhappiness it causes. (A more localised production slider.) Could even be modded to only be allowed under certain governments etc.

(Damn, now you got me modding at work )

[Devil of Truth]

Originally posted by Maquiladora
Would be great if several cities could work on seperate parts of a wonder to complete it. If you wanted to build the Great Wall for example, each city should have to build parts of it, abit like the Gaia Controller needs controller core and power satellites. A wonder could be a Empire wide effort then.

Could this be done? I have a feeling the AI won’t even have a clue . Anybody know?