Civ_str.txt: Up to 60 Real City Names per Civ

[emckinley]

Ahoj Luke, (dobry den)

Yes I see your point and Masaryk is perfectly fine to represent the Czech nation as the president of the First Republic. I was just thinking about one of the great Kings since the game starts off at 4000BC.

I'm an American mutt of sorts - part Irish/Scottish and part German. My wife is Polish however and I've spent a great deal of time in Poland and in Czech as well as Slovakia. They are like second homes to me.
I know very well Prague and have many good Czech friends whom I work with (I am a composer so I know many Czech musicians). I also know Olomouc very well and love the Moravian countryside -- I have visited most of Bohemia and Moravia. I will be going back in June for some work with the Moravska Filharmonie Olomouc. Best of all... will get to drink REAL beer (like Pilsner Urquell, etc.).

So, po Polsku:
Pozdrowiam,

Elliott

quote: Originally posted by LukeCz on 03-20-2001 04:30 PM Hi Elliott, As I see you have a good knowledge of history, bravo. You're right, Karel IV was one of the greatest man in the Czech history. He was an Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. I've choosen T.G. Masaryk as he was our first president. He estabilished Czechoslovakia (a federation of Czech and Slovak nations) in the year 1918 which was called "the First Republic" that was an extremelly prosperous country (economically, democratically, scientifically, ...). I was hesitating between those two great man and decided for the second one because T. G. Masaryk has livened the Czech nation after hundreds years lasting Austrian oppression. Elliott, I'm really delighted you know the Czechs (probably quite the Czech history as well) and you like us and Prague! What kind of nationality are you? Regards, LukeCz

[emckinley]

Hey all,

Glad to see some Czechs! Prague is one of my favorite cities too. For leader, wouldnt one of the great Czech kings be more appropriate? Like Charles IV? (Karel IV)

But, since my wife is Polish:
Who has noticed that the Polish "letterhead" for the diplomatic proposals is NOT the Red and White of the Polish Eagle but rather the symbol for the SLOVAK REPUBLIC? Nothing against the Slovaks, but I would think that the people at Activision would know the difference?

Cheers,
Elliott

[OmniGod]

Here's my Canadian List it's only 40 cities... I can add more...

CANADA_CITY_1 "Ottawa"
CANADA_CITY_2 "Toronto"
CANADA_CITY_3 "Montreal"
CANADA_CITY_4 "Vancouver"
CANADA_CITY_5 "Calgary"
CANADA_CITY_6 "Edmonton"
CANADA_CITY_7 "Hamilton"
CANADA_CITY_8 "Kitchner"
CANADA_CITY_9 "Victoria"
CANADA_CITY_10 "Quebec City"
CANADA_CITY_11 "Halifax"
CANADA_CITY_12 "Fredricton"
CANADA_CITY_13 "Kingston"
CANADA_CITY_14 "St.Catharines"
CANADA_CITY_15 "Winnipeg"
CANADA_CITY_16 "Edmonton"
CANADA_CITY_17 "Charlottetown"
CANADA_CITY_18 "Windsor"
CANADA_CITY_19 "Yellowknife"
CANADA_CITY_20 "St. John's"
CANADA_CITY_21 "Dawson"
CANADA_CITY_22 "Regina"
CANADA_CITY_23 "Mississagua"
CANADA_CITY_24 "Thunder Bay"
CANADA_CITY_25 "Banff"
CANADA_CITY_26 "Prince Rupert"
CANADA_CITY_27 "Niagara Falls"
CANADA_CITY_28 "Sudbury"
CANADA_CITY_29 "Guelph"
CANADA_CITY_30 "Iliquat"
CANADA_CITY_31 "Chicoutimi"
CANADA_CITY_32 "Whitehorse"
CANADA_CITY_33 "Whistler"
CANADA_CITY_34 "North York"
CANADA_CITY_35 "Fort Erie"
CANADA_CITY_36 "Sarnia"
CANADA_CITY_37 "Hull"
CANADA_CITY_38 "Brantford"
CANADA_CITY_39 "Saskatoon"
CANADA_CITY_40 "Churchill"
CANADA_CITY_41 "Laval"
CANADA_CITY_42 "Surrey"
CANADA_CITY_43 "Brampton"
CANADA_CITY_44 "Burnaby"
CANADA_CITY_45 "Abbotsford"
CANADA_CITY_46 "Ajax"
CANADA_CITY_47 "Ancaster"
CANADA_CITY_48 "Beauport"
CANADA_CITY_49 "Burlington"
CANADA_CITY_50 "Cape Breton"

[Hassan]

Isn't it transliterated like so?: Dobre Dien!..
Anyway, Dobre Dien ee Dobre Pashalovat'

Thanks for the history lessons!
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I've already completed my Canadian list, here it is Omni, check it to make sure some of these places aren't too "backwater" (from the Canadian perspective)

CANADIANS_CITY_1 "Ottawa"
CANADIANS_CITY_2 "Montreal"
CANADIANS_CITY_3 "Edmonton"
CANADIANS_CITY_4 "Calgary"
CANADIANS_CITY_5 "Vancouver"
CANADIANS_CITY_6 "Winnipeg"
CANADIANS_CITY_7 "Regina"
CANADIANS_CITY_8 "Toronto"
CANADIANS_CITY_9 "Whistler"
CANADIANS_CITY_10 "Whitehorse"
CANADIANS_CITY_11 "Banff"
CANADIANS_CITY_12 "Sundre"
CANADIANS_CITY_13 "Halifax"
CANADIANS_CITY_14 "St. Johns"
CANADIANS_CITY_15 "Victoria"
CANADIANS_CITY_16 "Niagara"
CANADIANS_CITY_17 "Longlac"
CANADIANS_CITY_18 "Cobalt"
CANADIANS_CITY_19 "Brandon"
CANADIANS_CITY_20 "St. Claude"
CANADIANS_CITY_21 "Battleford"
CANADIANS_CITY_22 "Lethbridge"
CANADIANS_CITY_23 "Moosonee"
CANADIANS_CITY_24 "Vermilion"
CANADIANS_CITY_25 "La Ronge"
CANADIANS_CITY_26 "Chesterfield"
CANADIANS_CITY_27 "Tecumseh"
CANADIANS_CITY_28 "Gatineau"
CANADIANS_CITY_29 "Iron River"
CANADIANS_CITY_30 "Head Smashed In"
CANADIANS_CITY_31 "St. Jean"
CANADIANS_CITY_32 "Sennaterre"
CANADIANS_CITY_33 "Kirkland Lake"
CANADIANS_CITY_34 "Sault Ste. Marie"
CANADIANS_CITY_35 "Oshawa"
CANADIANS_CITY_36 "Whitby"
CANADIANS_CITY_37 "Kingston"
CANADIANS_CITY_38 "Thunder Bay"
CANADIANS_CITY_39 "Prince Albert"
CANADIANS_CITY_40 "Melfort"
CANADIANS_CITY_41 "Saskatoon"
CANADIANS_CITY_42 "Red Deer"
CANADIANS_CITY_43 "Innisfail"
CANADIANS_CITY_44 "Fort McMurray"
CANADIANS_CITY_45 "McLennon"
CANADIANS_CITY_46 "Edson"
CANADIANS_CITY_47 "Dawson Creek"
CANADIANS_CITY_48 "Prince George"
CANADIANS_CITY_49 "Vanderhoof"
CANADIANS_CITY_50 "Kamloops"
CANADIANS_CITY_51 "Clinton"
CANADIANS_CITY_52 "Merrit"
CANADIANS_CITY_53 "Terrace"
CANADIANS_CITY_54 "Prince Rupert"
CANADIANS_CITY_55 "Port Alice"
CANADIANS_CITY_56 "Duncan"
CANADIANS_CITY_57 "Ft. Resolution"
CANADIANS_CITY_58 "Yellowknife"
CANADIANS_CITY_59 "Dawson"
CANADIANS_CITY_60 "Charlottetown"


When the whole file is done I think I'll pass it around and allow people to reorder and edit the file, so we can have a good first release. How does that sound?

[Hassan]

I tried to keep larger cities, on the list, but order, even on my other lists is elusive, because I don't have the exact (and full) history of the world under my grasp. But since you do know Canada, that's good. Thanks! My biggist complaint about the U.S. List is that Activision, didn't even include Houston... sorry but that's our nations fourth largest city, not to mention home to at least one Ivy League School. Seems these lists were made in a single brainstorming session.

-Note-"backwater"-in this context means cities that are perhaps no more than suburbs... insignifigant on the larger scale. I'd never put "Sugar Land" on my list, even though it's in the second fastest growing county in the U.S. and home of Imperial Cane Sugar and a major suburb of Houston. However, I would have put Lexington on my list, or Concord even tough Surgar Land may be bigger and have more economic Importance, because Lexington and Concord, have historic importance. (These lists shouldn't just reflect the end results). "backwater" has nothing to do with percieved or unpercieved economic, social, and technological development. Secondly, I don't think the average American even "THINKS" of Canada (sorry America!). Fortunatly I do. Otherwise the list would never have been attempted.

-Oh, one more thing, I would argue that the U.S. South has more economic importance by far than the North. Yes the "Yankies" may have New York, but that's a problem run completly out of control.
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If your list is good for a Canadian, then it's good for me. I'll apply to my text soon. Thanks!

-Eric aka "Hassan"

P.S. Did I mention I use the Activision list for the first thirty, I correct order when it's most glairing? So I do recognize the need to review and ammend each of my lists.
[This message has been edited by Hassan (edited March 22, 2001).]

[OmniGod]

First comment on your Canadian cities is that the order doesn't reflect either sizes, order of founding or include some urban/educational cities. I've edited the cities in the list from the Canadian perspective. I also removed the "backwater" cities that don't even have a population above 10,000.... the list compiled below is 64 cites... cut it to 60 and it's still good... the list you had, was very a very non-Canadian perspective... most likely an American view in which the Canadians are more backwater than some parts of the Southern US. As a Canadian the following list comprises the 17 largest urban areas followed by 47 alphabetical major cities not included in the major urban centers.


CANADIANS_CITY_1 "Ottawa"
CANADIANS_CITY_2 "Toronto"
CANADIANS_CITY_3 "Montreal"
CANADIANS_CITY_4 "Vancouver"
CANADIANS_CITY_5 "Calgary"
CANADIANS_CITY_6 "Edmonton"
CANADIANS_CITY_7 "Quebec City"
CANADIANS_CITY_8 "Winnipeg"
CANADIANS_CITY_9 "Hamilton"
CANADIANS_CITY_10 "London"
CANADIANS_CITY_11 "Kitchener"
CANADIANS_CITY_12 "St. Catharines"
CANADIANS_CITY_13 "Halifax"
CANADIANS_CITY_14 "Victoria"
CANADIANS_CITY_15 "Windsor"
CANADIANS_CITY_16 "Oshawa"
CANADIANS_CITY_17 "Saskatoon"
CANADIANS_CITY_18 "Abbotsford"
CANADIANS_CITY_19 "Barrie"
CANADIANS_CITY_20 "Belleville"
CANADIANS_CITY_21 "Brantford"
CANADIANS_CITY_22 "Charlottetown"
CANADIANS_CITY_23 "Chatham"
CANADIANS_CITY_24 "Chicoutimi"
CANADIANS_CITY_25 "Chilliwack"
CANADIANS_CITY_26 "Cornwall"
CANADIANS_CITY_27 "Courtenay"
CANADIANS_CITY_28 "Drummondville"
CANADIANS_CITY_29 "Fredericton"
CANADIANS_CITY_30 "Granby"
CANADIANS_CITY_31 "Guelph"
CANADIANS_CITY_32 "Iqaluit"
CANADIANS_CITY_33 "Kamloops"
CANADIANS_CITY_34 "Kelowna"
CANADIANS_CITY_35 "Kingston"
CANADIANS_CITY_36 "Lethbridge"
CANADIANS_CITY_37 "Medicine Hat"
CANADIANS_CITY_38 "Moncton"
CANADIANS_CITY_39 "Nanaimo"
CANADIANS_CITY_40 "Niagara Falls"
CANADIANS_CITY_41 "North Bay"
CANADIANS_CITY_42 "Oshawa"
CANADIANS_CITY_43 "Peterborough"
CANADIANS_CITY_44 "Prince George"
CANADIANS_CITY_45 "Red Deer"
CANADIANS_CITY_46 "Regina"
CANADIANS_CITY_47 "Saint-Hyacinthe"
CANADIANS_CITY_48 "Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu"
CANADIANS_CITY_49 "Saint John"
CANADIANS_CITY_50 "Sarnia"
CANADIANS_CITY_51 "Sault Ste. Marie"
CANADIANS_CITY_52 "Shawinigan"
CANADIANS_CITY_53 "Sherbrooke"
CANADIANS_CITY_54 "St. John's"
CANADIANS_CITY_55 "Strathcona"
CANADIANS_CITY_56 "Sydney"
CANADIANS_CITY_57 "Thunder Bay"
CANADIANS_CITY_58 "Trois-Rivieres"
CANADIANS_CITY_59 "Vernon"
CANADIANS_CITY_60 "Whitehorse"
CANADIANS_CITY_61 "Yellowknife"
CANADIANS_CITY_62 "Dawson"
CANADIANS_CITY_63 "Banff"
CANADIANS_CITY_64 "Whistler"

[joseph1944]

To all of you guy above thanks for showing me and a whole lot of other people how to add or change name of cities.

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[LukeCz]

quote: Originally posted by Hassan on 03-21-2001 10:43 PM Isn't it transliterated like so?: Dobre Dien!.. Anyway, Dobre Dien ee Dobre Pashalovat' Thanks for the history lessons!

Hassan,

It isn't transliterated like that. emckinley (Elliott) was correct.
That is the Czech language.
There is used Alphabet in Czech but we have added several more letters which I can't use in an English enviroment.
You probably meant a different slavonic language.

By the way, It was my pleasure to give you a history "lesson".

[Hassan]

I'm going with the transliteration of Russian, infact that's what I speak as my second language. Äîáðû Äåíü è Äîáðî Ïîæàëîâàòü Was what I meant
Anyway all this is getting off topic!

If anyone wants to review and help me in completing my Civ_Str.txt, please say so here or e-mail me at Sabaka@alltel.net I need help in the area of ordering cities by importance, and reletive founding dates, as Omni and I were discussing above. For my lists I've only "added" names to the 30 included on Activision's lists, thus they are not all orignal nor perfect.


Thanks

-Hassan aka "Eric McIntyre"

[OmniGod]

I'd be interested in the two files when you get a chance... while I don't know lots about other nations cities I do know how to research the answer to order, priority and size.

Rich - not that I have a lot of time these days.

[Hassan]

Good I'll forward the files to you soon. First, I'm going to start using the str myself tonight, if I can modify the civilization.txt fast enough.

-Hassan

[wcolange]

Is there, or have you guys ever considered putting the carthaginians, moors or moguls in? Just wondering. Im not trying to push people around...

[kaan]

hassan, is your work done? or is it coming?

im not trying to be a pest here but im looking forward to the result

-klaus

[kaan]

another bump!

this is an interesting project, did it ever finish?
if it didnt maybe someone here would like to have the hornor

klaus

[Pedrunn]

The Brazilians

BRAZILIAN_CITY_1 "Brasilia"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_2 "Rio De Janeiro"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_3 "Sao Paulo"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_4 "Porto Alegre"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_5 "Recife"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_6 "Olinda"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_7 "Caceres"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_8 "Guaiba"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_9 "Gramado"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_10 "Vitoria"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_11 "Santos"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_12 "Fortaleza"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_13 "Sao Luis"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_14 "Belo Horizonte"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_15 "Natal"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_16 "Manaus"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_17 "Belem"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_18 "Passo Fundo"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_19 "Macapa"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_20 "Itaitaia"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_21 "Joao Pessoa"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_22 "Osasco"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_23 "Bauru"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_24 "Florianopolis"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_25 "Rio Grande"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_26 "Pelotas"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_27 "Rio do Sul"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_28 "Ouro Preto"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_29 "Aracaju"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_30 "Curitiba"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_31 "Campo Grande"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_32 "Goiania"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_33 "Ilheus"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_34 "Sao Carlos"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_35 "Sorocaba"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_36 "Uberlandia"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_37 "Campos"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_38 "Palmas"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_39 "Uberaba"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_40 "Maceio"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_41 "Monte Verde"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_42 "Ponta Grossa"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_43 "Maringa"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_44 "Londrina"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_45 "Ibia"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_46 "Ribeirao Preto"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_47 "Mossoro"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_48 "Maringa"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_49 "Niteroi"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_50 "Erexim"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_51 "Cascavel"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_52 "Juazeiro do Norte"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_53 "Caico"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_54 "Nanuque"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_55 "Sao Caetano"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_56 "Sao Bernardo"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_57 "Diadema"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_58 "Santo Andre"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_59 "Macau"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_60 "Saubara"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_61 "Cubatão"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_62 "Laguna"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_63 "Araxa"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_64 "Cotia"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_65 "Bage"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_66 "Vale do Rio Doce"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_67 "Gravatá"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_68 "Rio Tinto"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_69 "Sete Lagoas"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_70 "Sobral"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_71 "Alagoinhas"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_72 "Santarem"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_73 "Badajos"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_74 "Ilha de marajo "
BRAZILIAN_CITY_75 "Rio Verde"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_76 "Guarabira"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_77 "Sao Cristovao"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_78 "Juiz de fora"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_79 "Vicosa"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_80 "Vassouras"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_81 "Teresopolis"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_82 "Petropolis"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_83 "Nova Friburgo"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_84 "Campinas"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_85 "Pocos de Caldas"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_86 "Passos"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_87 "Feira de Santana"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_88 "Piracicaba"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_89 "Criciuma"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_90 "Tubarao"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_91 "Areia Branca"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_92 "Souza"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_93 "Pau dos Ferros"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_94 "Bom Jesus da Lapa"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_95 "Petrolina"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_96 "Sao Cristovao"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_97 "Campina Grande"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_98 "Jacobina"
BRAZILIAN_CITY_99 "Caruaru"

BRAZILIAN_CITY_100 "Pedrunnlandia" // Why Not?

PS1: this last one does not exist

PS2: Going to the Carnaval (For days straight parting) See ya!!!