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**Grandpa Troll** · August 17, 2003, 16:48

Re: Get Real...

Originally posted by blackice
So after 4 years I finally play Trolls game... What a joke I start the game 30 turns in after 3 hours I am leading him in pg beyond his ability to catch up to me.

Science ends at democracy. ok so be it. I have 101 sols and god knows how many troops. I see a battleship and I ask what is that? How do you get battleships and I can not. He says ruins.

Ok Troll fun waste of time....

Ok Troll if You need to play your watered down, take the ruins to win the game mutation. As I said 4 years ago play a real game it's called CTP...

No wonder you have a hard time beating Paul and the likes. If you rely on terrain and ruins to win, well it explains a lot...

Come on man what was that

I was 30 turns? behind you took over pg and the rest, growth for an example then you pull this.....

Hummmmmm

Good game I bet a buck you would last but 60 turns in a normal game with me.....

On that note I'd love to show you how I did what I did so as you could beat me down the pipe.

You up for it? I mean in a normal game....Not ruins wins game.

Now speaking of which I would love anyone here to tell me that SKILL alone wins games here... I am sure we all will believe you.

Ok Pete, I am now convinced you must be really upset that I play my way not your way.

I have saves from game..I looked and guess what, you dont have 101 SOL's you hvae 16

You dont have all these troops you have 54 cities and like 6 or 9 settlers to build

I played a renaisance era only game and I play that a lot..doenst mean watered down means a varying games style.

I never said I could beat you or Paul

Congrats that you had me on PG..so?

I play my style you yours

as for Battleships after science ends..I found 5 in ruins you didnt have..so what?

You oughta know its normal to find in ruins

AGAIN, I never stated to you or anyone else I could beat you. I agree your a better player and ya know what? I enjoy my copy of CTP..I cant say how yours came but my came with OPTINS FOR VARYING GAME PLAY

Whats your problem Pete..I mean Blackice or Dave or LooT or however you decide to be called..

I was playing by myself you join my game..I allowed you to play didnt boot you didnt attack you didnt cut you down

Whats the matter with you?

This is a repeat of before..BUT I have saves..You played an honest game and yes I see how you do so well..I took YOUR advice to monitor games after they are finished to see how the top players win..

I saw your tactics..I see the reason..and i agreee that does help immensely..

YOU DID NOT CHEAT!
You played failry and I salute you..

you lied..when you said you had 101 SOL's..I have saves and you quit after maybe turn 161

Ok..I am sorry that your not man enough to just allow me to play my way and you yours..

I play my way and will continue to do so for as long a sI see fit.

Why dont you just ask next time..as i now see you dont know EVERYTHING about CTP...I just taught you a small lesson..my bad for enjoying my monies worth..
Dont enter my game play yourself with whomever..
Please just dont attack me for playing my style..which I have been playing for 3-4 years now...

Peace

Grandpa Troll

**blackice** · August 17, 2003, 23:02

Ok Pete, I am now convinced you must be really upset that I play my way not your way.

Not at all but relying on ruins and tarrain for the win?
Heh join the league big boy play with your abilities not luck...

I have saves from game..I looked and guess what, you dont have 101 SOL's you hvae 16

and you do?

remember you said you had them post the saves...

I never said I could beat you or Pau

Playing this style you never wil, not only that you will never learn how to beat the top.

I played a renaisance era only game and I play that a lot..doenst mean watered down means a varying games style

And? how many others play this style 2?

Congrats that you had me on PG..so?

So? you had the game advantage how many turns before I started? And you say so? I was kicking your a$$ that is not so that is reality. I even beat you to the final tech, I had AI I ahd the disadvantage. You say so

Lets have a game a normal one... You for four years have said no..... Why? appears to be obvious. At least I ventured into your waters...

AGAIN, I never stated to you or anyone else I could beat you. I agree your a better player and ya know what? I enjoy my copy of CTP..I cant say how yours came but my came with OPTINS FOR VARYING GAME PLAY

True how much have you learned playing your style?

This is a repeat of before..BUT I have saves..You played an honest game and yes I see how you do so well..I took YOUR advice to monitor games after they are finished to see how the top players win..

ok we have something in common

You played failry and I salute you..

I thank you and you too played fair. I too salute you for honest gaming.

Ok..I am sorry that your not man enough to just allow me to play my way and you yours..

In other words you got an advance that I could never get which changed the face of the game. It gave you the complete advantage with a ruin tech and I am not man enough to play your game?
Hey how about a game of cards where if I get the 8 of spades every hand after that I win?
Give it up Troll you can not compete under the reality of the game.. the true game, not your rules and or preferances that you have practiced. But the game....CTP

Hey we can all design a senario we can win at and we could play that to our lifes content... What did you learn today...? Me? Think about it...

I play my way and will continue to do so for as long a sI see fit.

I wish you would play just one normal game, I would hope I could show you and teach you so much more than I saw today. I would like to see you able to compete with Paul. Better yet me after all you and I seem to be the only people who have the time to play online. Or is it the bal^$.

As for the rest

what ever, good luck in PBEM

Peace Ý

**Paulno1** · August 21, 2003, 01:34

Just adding my 2 cents.
maybe he didnt want to play you for 4 years Blackice, cause you whine like a 2 year old. So hes crap, its his own god given right to be crap for ever if he chooses too. BS arent that scary if you are milies ahead on ranking. If you had 101 sols you would have won easily even if he had found ROBOTICS, but you were probably exagerating the number of sol's you had. SO HE FOUND IT, all you have to do is STEAL it or caputre a few cities and you will have it to. Id be surprised if he wants to play you again after you insulted him

**TheBirdMan** · August 21, 2003, 02:10

**blackice** · August 21, 2003, 08:32

Well Paulno1 whine

Your favorite saying to those who believe in fair play and even challenges. I am sure it means something to you?

I mean here you are calling Troll crap once again showing you true character.
I think Troll is a better player than you, he is certainly not crap as you call him.

At least he does not cheat like some people no names of course

**checkMate** · August 21, 2003, 21:11

Havoc and Dismay !!

**ricketyclik** · August 23, 2003, 04:28

Erm, am I missing something here? I have never found a naval unit in a ruin

**david42one** · August 23, 2003, 07:38

As much as we all love ctp, I think there is such a thing as taking any game, including this one, too seriously.

Ricketyclik, I assume that Troll discovered the advance "Steel" in a ruin.

**Grandpa Troll** · August 23, 2003, 11:36

Well..this is a game, my personal favorite and yes I am a big pile of dookey-doo!!

BUT..I own the land this pile of dookey-doo lays on.

I believe the whole matter boils down to this:

I suck and well, so be it.

BUT..I still have the option of playing this game the way I WANT TO

Anyone can simply type the apostrophe key and chat in a game..in fact..most online games I play I name them :

PRESS ' IN GAME 2 CHAT-RESTART

But..I found the advance STEEL..not a battleship in the ruins..and I am indeed learning more each day..BUT..I just prefer these settings..

You know..some folks like playing full court 5 on 5 basketball...

some folks enjoy playing half-court 3 on 3

still others prefer a 8 man game of 21....

all basketball..all have their value of entertainment worth and yes..usually the same player that rules the open court will rule the "old-mans game" of 21

But seriously..I am not looking any trouble..I didnt cheat and didnt falselt represent myself, I simply setup a game style I enjoy
Look I work hard all day and enjoy this game...

Please, lets just agree that some styles are acceptable..and if we cant then just go play your own style with someone whom wants to.

For the record:

I HAVE NOT BEATEN ANYONE IN 4 YEARS!!!!!!! I JUST ENJOY PLAYING!! NEWS ALERT I LOVE THIS GAME!!!! NOT TO WIN BUT TO PLAY!!!!

Peace

Grandpa Troll

**TheBirdMan** · August 23, 2003, 11:49

Originally posted by Troll

For the record:

I HAVE NOT BEATEN ANYONE IN 4 YEARS!!!!!!! I JUST ENJOY PLAYING!! NEWS ALERT I LOVE THIS GAME!!!! NOT TO WIN BUT TO PLAY!!!!

Peace

Grandpa Troll

Ohh, just as in the Olympic Games what seems decades ago - it's more important to participate than to win (no professionals allowed)

**Grandpa Troll** · August 23, 2003, 11:52

Well..maybe also like the Professional athletes of yesteryear..( Of which I aint)

I PLAY FOR THE lOVE OF THE GAME!!

Peace

Grandpa Troll

**Maquiladora** · August 23, 2003, 12:19

Id say you create your own luck

**Grandpa Troll** · August 23, 2003, 12:39

Originally posted by Maquiladora
Id say you create your own luck

.....actually Activision created this game and I am merely using the available options, same as some prefer "Island Hoppers Game" (one I have seen online) while I lean more toward land..

......as well as the same opportunity as my opponents..whom have same chances at ruins,land,units,scienc ect.

Peace

Grandpa Troll

**ricketyclik** · August 23, 2003, 20:33

Originally posted by david42one
Ricketyclik, I assume that Troll discovered the advance "Steel" in a ruin.

Ah, I see. I'm surprised that the code allows this when the ages are restricted. However, it does introduce an interesting element to the game, and the unreachable tech is then stealable or lootable or even tradeable.

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