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  • CTP Ratings (29-APR-2001)

    Call to Power -- Play-by-Email Ratings and Rankings

    Last Updated: 6-MAY-2001 (updated every Sunday at 23:00 Apolyton Time)


    CTP. . APOLYTON HANDLE........ CTP... P.G. P.G.
    RANK P NAME................... RATING WIN. LOSS NAT.TR

    0001 . MOBIUS................. 23.267 0033 0002 GBR.EN
    0002 . KLAIR.................. 23.206 0027 0000 FRA...
    0003 . RICK_ELKINS............ 22.487 0023 0010 USA.NY
    0004 . SWISSY................. 21.895 0018 0003 USA.IL
    0005 . STAVROS................ 21.666 0079 0031 GER...
    0006 . BERXPERT............... 21.441 0032 0003 MEX...
    0007 P DEVIL.................. 20.927 0005 0002 LAT...
    0008 . SLAMP.................. 20.914 0022 0008 FRA...
    0009 . ST_JON................. 20.892 0050 0046 GBR.EN
    0010 . BILHQ.................. 20.788 0012 0004 INA...
    0011 . MAX_WEBSTER............ 20.624 0016 0011 CAN...
    0012 . ZOBOZEWARRIOR.......... 20.611 0018 0006 FRA...
    0013 P VITOLG................. 20.476 0004 0003 ISR...
    0014 . QUINNS................. 20.410 0070 0056 USA.CA
    0015 . FRAZE.................. 20.379 0020 0031 GBR...
    0016 . NOTUNCOMMON............ 20.358 0018 0011 DEN...
    0017 . JPWW................... 20.055 0016 0003 USA.GA
    0018 P FUZZBALL............... 20.029 0003 0004 AUS...
    0019 . NUKE_BOY............... 19.871 0032 0014 USA.FL
    0020 . FRANSES................ 19.796 0030 0023 NED...
    0021 . THEBIRDMAN............. 19.551 0078 0053 DEN...
    0022 . KRALJ_MATJAZ........... 19.503 0041 0013 SLO...
    0023 . KRASH.................. 19.493 0015 0012 GBR.EN
    0024 . PAUL................... 19.460 0024 0042 NED...
    0025 . KING_THOR.............. 19.442 0038 0072 USA.FL
    0026 . KEYGEN................. 19.217 0018 0018 GRE...
    0027 . LUNG................... 19.215 0021 0018 AUS.SW
    0028 . 420.................... 19.090 0017 0017 USA.IL
    0029 . SADDAM................. 19.050 0012 0006 USA.WI
    0030 P EOHIAN................. 19.049 0003 0000 USA.CA
    0031 . MAESTRO................ 18.592 0004 0010 BEL...
    0032 . ARTHUR................. 18.494 0014 0039 USA.UT
    0033 . DUCK_HUNTER............ 18.450 0007 0020 USA.FL
    0034 . YETI................... 18.175 0012 0009 USA.WI
    0035 . DUGRIK................. 18.171 0008 0009 USA.TX
    0036 P BONAPARTE II........... 17.900 0000 0000 USA.NY
    0037 . SOLVER................. 17.798 0018 0042 LAT...
    0038 P ELROND................. 17.750 0000 0000 GER...
    0039 . PHOENIXCAGER........... 17.719 0010 0011 SGP...
    0040 . PN..................... 17.329 0007 0012 GBR.EN
    0041 . DARTH_VIPER............ 17.105 0018 0041 NED...
    0042 . THE_TRUE_DEMOSTHENES... 17.041 0006 0057 GBR.EN
    0043 . SYORIS................. 16.898 0004 0006 GBR.EN
    0044 . CUAICH................. 16.782 0004 0008 CAN.ON
    P = Provisional. Player has had less than 10 power graph results.


    Frequently Asked Questions

    How do I become rated? Simply post, to this thread, the highest level of victory that you ever attained, (Chieftain, Warlord, Prince, King, Emperor, or Deity), in a "single player" game of Call to Power, along with the Nation and Territory that you presently reside. That's it! You'll see your name appear on the above list within a week.
    How do the ratings change? See the below CTP Ratings Links section for an in depth discussion.
    On whose turn should the Power Graph be reported? It doesn't matter because the Power Graph remains the same during the cycle of the turn. However, we recommend that the 1st player (blue) always report the Power Graph results.

    Adjustments to Ratings

    New Players to Add:
    Pending *9th Turn Processing:
    Pending Elimination:
    Pending Delinquency Adjustment (- 0.1 points):

    Current Rated Games In Progress*:

    (Turn rating started in parentheses)
    1. R2_Islands(0) - Solver, Fraze, King Thor, Kralj Matjaz, Quinns.
    2. Love_Conquers?(50) - St Jon, Mobius, (Keygen), Stavros, Rick Elkins, King Thor.
    3. Eagles_at_War(0) - TheBirdMan, Solver, Kralj Matjaz, Notuncommon, Fraze, Krash, Arthur, Quinns.
    4. Lung's_Fast(86) - Lung, Stavros, Paul, St Jon, TheBirdMan.
    5. Do_Some_PBEM(49) - Solver, TheBirdMan, (Blackice), Paul, Krash, (Stavros).
    6. Fixed_Game(30) - King Thor, Stavros, (PN), Keygen, Quinns.
    7. Team_Horses(0) - ZoboZeWarrior, Darth Viper, (Blackice), Quinns, Franses, Nuke Boy.
    8. Monkey_1(187) - Yeti, (TheBirdMan), Swissy, (Nuke Boy), Slamp, Paul, (Max Webster), (Fraze).
    9. Monkey_2(226) - Yeti, (Max Webster), (Germans - A/I), Lung, Paul, (Zaphod), (TheBirdMan).
    10. Conquer!!!(23) - Bilhq, TheBirdMan, (SADDAM), Stavros, Paul, King Thor, (Jafo).
    11. Giant_Bird(29) - TheBirdMan, (Stavros), Notuncommon, Franses, Darth Viper, (King Thor).
    12. Dutcheese(119) - (Fraze), TheBirdMan, Klair, Duck_Hunter, Max_Webster King_Thor, Slamp, St_Jon.
    13. Youngbloods(0) - 420, Darth_Viper, Kralj_Matjaz, Phoenixcager, BerXpert, (Blackice).
    14. Fly High(29) - TheBirdMan, Notuncommon, Krash, (Fraze), King_Thor, (Arthur), Bilhq.
    15. Team Spirit(29) - Stavros, Franses, Keygen, Arthur, Maestro, TheBirdMan, Swissy, King Thor
    16. Veterans In Arms(0) - Keygen, TheBirdMan, Paul, Slamp, The_True_Demosthenes, Swissy
    17. Young v. Old Blood(0) - Keygen, (Blackice), St_Jon, Yeti, TheBirdMan, 420
    18. Youngbloods Gathering(0) - Phoenixcager, (Blackice), 420, BerXpert, Yeti, Saddam
    19. Another World(0) - Darth_Viper, Bonaparte_II, 420, Nuke_Boy, Dugrik, Saddam
    20. Lungmatch 2.1(66) - Max_Webster, Lung, Arthur
    21. Lungmatch 2.2(0) - Keygen, Solver, Swissy
    22. Strife(0) - ZoboZeWarrior, PN, Jpww, (Blackice), Nuke_Boy, Cuaich
    23. Lungmatch 3.2(8) - The_True_Demosthenes, Mobius, TheBirdMan
    24. Swissy2(238) - The_True_Demosthenes, Mobius, Lung, (Moral Hazard)
    25. High Voltage(0) - PN, Jpww, (Blackice), Dugrik, BerXpert, Eohian
    26. T.N.T.(0) - Fuzzball, Vitolg, DeVil, Nuke Boy, (Blackice), BerXpert

    * A player in parentheses is unrated in that game.

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    Related CTP PBEM Ratings Links


    TENPL639_AM
    --- Rankings for Apolyton Call to Power Play-by-Email (PBEM).

    TENPL641_AM
    --- History of Ratings for Apolyton Call to Power PBEM.

    TEN619_AM
    --- *9th Turn Game Results for Apolyton Call to Power PBEM.

    RATINGS FORMULAS
    --- Formulas Used in Determining Ratings Calculations.

    PBEM LADDERS thread
    --- Early Discussions on the Foundation of the CTP PBEM Rating System.

    POPULATION GROWTH TABLES
    --- CTP City Population Growth Tables.

    POWER GRAPH INTERPRETED --- Discussions on Call to Power's Power Graph.

    COMPANY, BATTALION, BRIGADE, DIVISION... YIKES
    --- Discussions on the Standarization of the Groupings of Military Units in CTP.
    -----------------
    TENPL639_AM Report Legend:

    NAT.TR - Nation and Territory of Primary Residence.

    PBEM RATING - Starts with an initial value depending upon the highest CtP AI level ever honestly defeated: Chieftain=14; Warlord=16; Prince=17; King=18; Emperor=19; Deity=21. This rating changes by winning or losing to other rated players, (at the *9 turn mark every ten turns), while playing "rated" PBEM games. See the CtP Multiplayer topic "PBEM Ladders" for details on how this rating change is calculated.

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    TEN619_AM Report Concepts:

    Win/Loss - A Win counts by having a "higher" Power Graph rating at the ten turn mark during a "rated" game. For example, in a five player game, at the ten turn mark, each player will receive four results - 4 wins and 0 losses, or 3 wins and 1 loss, etc.

    Delinquency - 24 or more hours late counts as a delinquency. Each delinquency deducts -0.1 ratings points from player's rating.

    Inactivity Adjustment - Players will lose 5/100ths of a ratings point (-0.05) for each month they go without a ratings adjustment, (i.e. remain inactive in the ratings for an entire month).
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    Elimination Rule

    If, in a rated game, a player:
    a) resigns;
    b) changes status from "rated" to "unrated";
    c) gets annihilated; or
    d) gets "next turned" for three turns in a row,

    then every remaining player in that game "DEFEATS" THAT PLAYER THREE TIMES (as measured by the normal ten turn phase defeat).

    For example, in a 5 player game, the first person who gets "eliminated from the ratings in that game" would be "defeated" 12 times (as measured by the normal power graph 10 turn defeat), (3 multiplied by 4 remaining players.) This equates to an average decrease in ratings of about 2 to 3 points for the eliminated player. The second player eliminated would be defeated 9 times (3 multiplied by 3 remaining players), ... etc.

    In the case of resignation or three consecutive "next turns", then that resigned player's civilization will be "next turned" until a replacement player, (either rated or unrated), takes over that civilization's control.
    -----------------
    Alien Life Victory Rule

    If a player wins by completing the Alien Project, then that player defeats every remaining player three times.
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    Rating Change Table: - (example +2 to -2)

    DIFFERENCE.. RATING
    IN RATINGS.. CHANGE (+ for winner, - for loser)
    +2.0 ........ 0.083
    +1.5 ........ 0.118
    +1.0 ........ 0.167
    +0.5 ........ 0.222
    =0.0 ........ 0.250
    -0.5 ........ 0.278
    -1.0 ........ 0.333
    -1.5 ........ 0.382
    -2.0 ........ 0.417


    *** NOTICE TO ALL GAME STARTERS IN RATED GAMES ***

    Please post all of your turn *9 power graph results to the latest CTP Ratings thread (this thread). (I don't look at all of the game threads in progress.)

    Also, a reminder that all APPLICATIONS FOR NEW RATED GAMES need to be posted here with:
    1. Official game name;
    2. Player list (in turn order) of all players' APOLYTON HANDLES (no nick names please). Place players that wish to be "unrated" in parentheses;
    3. All desired rated players must have a current rating -- (please state their initial rating if they do not have a current rating).
    4. The current turn number;
    5. The turn number you want the game to become "rated".

    [This message has been edited by quinns (edited May 09, 2001).]
    Last edited by quinns; May 26, 2001, 14:13.

  • #2
    *** Ratings Updated ***

    BerXpert Added to High Voltage. Thanks Jpww.

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    • #3
      You're Welcome
      "I'm an engineer. I make slides that people can't read. Sometimes I eat donuts." - Alice

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      • #4
        Also turn eohian to rated in High Voltage whenever you can .

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        • #5
          I wish to be unrated in all games please.
          Thanks
          “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
          Or do we?

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          • #6
            Turn 69 Fixed Game Power Graph:

            Stavros
            King Thor
            Quinns
            Keygen
            (PN)

            ***

            Blackice, you will receive substantial penalties for changing status from rated to unrated in the rated games in which you are participating. We can make the adjustment and then remove your name from the list as we did Aaginor, if you like.

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            • #7
              quote:

              Originally posted by blackice on 04-29-2001 08:11 PM
              I wish to be unrated in all games please.
              Thanks


              Why? You are one of the highest rated players.

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              • #8
                quote:

                Originally posted by quinns on 04-29-2001 08:22 PM
                Turn 69 Fixed Game Power Graph:

                Stavros
                King Thor
                Quinns
                Keygen
                (PN)

                ***

                Blackice, you will receive substantial penalties for changing status from rated to unrated in the rated games in which you are participating. We can make the adjustment and then remove your name from the list as we did Aaginor, if you like.


                Hey Quinns, did you update the Ratings chart? I need all the wins that I can get. I have the maximum number of losses, and my rating reflects it.
                .. Boy! I must SUCK!
                King Thor

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                • #9
                  Yes please Quinns, remove me.
                  “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                  Or do we?

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                  • #10
                    Blackice, do you want to share with us why you want to be removed? As Keygen mentioned you are one of the highest ranked players and I am very curious about the reasoning behind it.

                    I sure hope you will continue playing?
                    Franses (like Ramses).

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                    • #11
                      Something wrong with th TEN619_AM APLOLYTON CTP PBEM RESULTS???

                      Last results are from the 15.april 2001?!
                      First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.

                      Gandhi

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                      • #12
                        Yes, Birdman. I uploaded the new results to my web host, but they have an old version of the files for some reason. They won't respond (pitiful web host). I'm switching to Addr.com web hosting now. I'm transferring my domain name to them soon. In the mean time, I'm pointing directly to the new site now, so try it at 16:00 GMT today. It should be alright.

                        Quinns
                        [This message has been edited by quinns (edited May 01, 2001).]

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                        • #13
                          Quinns, your proposal sounds good but new people like to see their names in the ranking from the start. Perhaps you should add them at the end of the ranking (including their rating) untill they have played the number of turns you propose after which they get their rightfull place in the ranking?
                          Franses (like Ramses).

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                          • #14
                            Or more easily - put them where they belong (as you do now)!

                            But give them an * ín front of their rating, showing that this position is only "theoretic" until their first official rating.

                            Personal I have no trouble diving down to xxx-position as long as I know some of the players above are wannabees. And that we all know about this.

                            But surely I can see the difference, when the weekly list are made official at Apolytons. Then I would suggest "something different". I do not know what excactly but:

                            If you should consider any possible situation - games/wins/losses, then fx. Klair should have a kind of deduction (do not know the right term) but she is only playing in one game - and (among others) King Thor should have some positive regulations due to his many rated games. As it is now, if you are in only one game and in that game is a (safe) lead - then you cannot be kicked from the CTP-thrown.

                            And Blackice, keep your position here. I do understand you. BUT I have also taken some -points in DC, which I (still) do not think I deserve (turn 119 and a misreported position in turn 139).

                            But I can live with this and so can you - you are a very good player, I know it from the moves you do when you are subbing me!


                            Max/Bird

                            First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.

                            Gandhi

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                            • #15
                              I think it would be better to start a new topic where to post every weak point of the ratings. There have past at list 6 months from the beginning of the rating system. We have the experience to post some safe results for they way the ranking work after a long period of evaluation. There are many things to discuss in my oppinion. Either Solver or Quinns should post the new topic.

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