CTP Ratings (21-DEC-2000)

[quinns]

R2_Islands, Turn 19, Power Graph Results:

Kralj Matjaz, Aaginor, Quinns, Solver, King Thor

[slamp]

> If Slamp, Thor, Frazer and Birdman are in favour of it then let DC become rated.
> Neither Slamp or Frazer are involved in any other Games and will simply lose points
> for inaction which does not reflect their abilities.

I'm ok that Dc become rated even if Jon and me are at war and Jon is winning
I guess some players don't want to be rate for few turns (20 ?) as they inherited a healthy position. I mean King Thor and Birdman.


I will post tomorrow Dc grading according to power graph.
Is-it possible to use history of the power graph to rate it ?
[This message has been edited by slamp (edited January 11, 2001).]

[quinns]

Slamp, regarding using history of Power Graph to rate games... sure, provided ALL players agree 100%.

[King Thor]

Okay I only agree 65% what do we do then?

[Solver]

I like the idea, as long as we have all the turn since 9, to ...9.

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Solver - http://www.aok.20m.com

[TheBirdMan]

I don't care about my position when I accept a game to be rated (see Conquer and Monkey 2).

If my position is too low - I will have to raise it or loose. That is that....

As a matter of fact - if Monkey 2 gets rated, I will surely understand if Lung or Paul just kill the english in one single action (they would certainly get into a war with each other after that action, but that would not be my problem )

It would be easy. And I would accept my loose without objections.

I would probably do that myself if the game was rated...... and I was in either in the position of Lung or Paul
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[quinns]

I like your attitude Birdman.

[Keygen]

Originally posted by Stavros on 01-10-2001 06:01 PM
I'm not sure if Team Spirir should be rated!!?? I'll talk to the players. I think TS is a bit of a special case since it is a team game, and I'm not sure how we should rank it. After all, one team member may sacrifice stuff (gold, tech, men) to the other, in order to help his teammate. This would hurt his individual ranking while furthuring his cause. No One player can win. Only a team. So I'm not sure if it is apropriate to rate these games.
But (as always) I'm open to discussion
[This message has been edited by Stavros (edited January 10, 2001).]

Well we could figure out of something.
We could be rated from the average of our score and teammate's score for example. I think we could do something like this for all team games. They are special case of PBEM games but we could find a way to rate these games too.

[Paul]

Birdman, I wouldn't mind having the Monkey games rated, but I haven't proposed it to the other players because these games have advanced so far that the players' positions are unlikely to change and lower ranked players in these games would be unlikely to want to be rated. But I might change my mind of other players from the Monkey games would post here to say that they are interested in getting these two games rated.

[quinns]

Team Games ummmm... How about this? ---

We treat the team as a new individual player, with the beginning of the team name beginning with TEAM_ e.g. TEAM_BRITAIN_1 or TEAM_RED_5, (I'm not very creative but anyway, start with TEAM and keep it somewhat short and separate it with "_" like in the example).

I hesitate to mention this because it creates MORE WORK for me, but I don't mind much. I could spell out the current team members as a new sub-report. We determine the intitial "team" rating by taking the sum of all the team players' ratings and dividing by the number of players on the team.

I believe it would be much too confusing to fairly apportion part of a rating change to the individual players within a team game. Even if the players on the team change, the rating would only change by match play via rated team games.

NEVERMIND. This won't work because I wouldn't know whose power graph to use when determining which team is ahead!
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[quinns]

King Thor... then you become a politically centrist moderate... like me!

[slamp]

Dutcheese Ranking (from 1st to 8th):

turn 129 : december 10th 2000
Klair, Slamp, St Jon, Don, King Thor, Duck Hunter, Frazer, TheBirdMan

turn 119 : november 12th 2000
Klair, Slamp, St Jon, Don, King Thor, Duck Hunter, Frazer, TheBirdMan

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Bellow ranking for turn 109 and 99. I think we must not use it as we have 2 new players now. I put it for informations:

turn 109: about october 17th 2000
Klair, Slamp, St Jon, Luk [King Thor],Don, Duck Hunter, Frazer, Sophix [TheBirdMan]

turn 99: about september 16th 2000
Klair, Slamp, St Jon, Duck Hunter, Luk [King Thor], Don, Sophix [TheBirdMan], Frazer

I hope I didn't do error, if so please correct me.
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[King Thor]

Not much change is there?

[St Jon]

I doubt that Klair would be interested in being rated but I think from the fact that she seems to be miles ahead in every game she is in it would be safe to assume her to be Deity Level!

I don't know about Ed, aka Duck Hunter, but he is very experienced and his poor ranking in DC does not do him justice. He just drew a short straw and was isolated for a very long time so his tech was pitiful. Again though, I doubt he would be much interested.

Don = Max Webster and I think you know everyone else.

Jon

[quinns]

Thanks Jon,

Can you ask Ed and Klair if they want to be rated? I would do it, but they don't know me from Adam! Or are you recommending making them unrated in this game?

Quinns