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  • AMMENDMENT Poll: Grammer, Spelling and a few other minor changes.

    In a effort to produce a better version of the Constitution. I offer the following edits for the approval of the CTP DG community.

    The 2nd post in this thread is the new Articles I-III
    The 3rd post is the new Articles IV and V
    The 4th post is a detailed list of changes.

    Please vote to approve this Amendment (or not approve it)

    The Poll will expire In Five days. I think this will be about midnight on the night of Feb 21.
    7
    Yes
    100.00%
    7
    No
    0.00%
    0
    Abstain
    0.00%
    0
    Last edited by checkMate; February 17, 2003, 20:04.
    If it ain't broke, find a bigger hammer.

  • #2
    Constitution of Atlantis
    Article I: Bill of Rights

    1. Any person who has registered to participate in this Democracy Game in the CtP Democracy Game Civ Group is considered a Citizen. No person shall be denied the right to become a Citizen.

    2. No Citizen shall ever be in any poll denied the right to vote and to keep this vote private. No Citizen shall ever be forced to vote in any poll.

    3. Freedom of speech and the right to associate into any form of organization shall not be denied unless it violates Apolyton rules.

    4. No citizen may be punished in any way without the consent of the Court. Still no one shall be banned permanently from participating in the Democracy Game, excluding those who are permanently banned from Apolyton. Note that people may still be banned for any amount of time, as long as it is not permanent.

    5. The government may not knowingly hide information or give false information to the people. Therefore all citizens shall have access to the saved games. However, no Citizen shall ever 'play ahead'.

    6. No citizen may be compelled to undertake any activity without his or her consent.

    Article II: Government Positions

    I. The President
    (a) The President shall physically play the game on a regular and scheduled basis whenever possible and post the save and a complete report of the game events to the forum.
    (b) The President is encouraged to use turn chats, turn threads, or any other similar method while playing the game.
    (c) The President must follow the instructions of the Court, the Ministers and their delegates while playing the game and doesn't hold any veto powers unless specifically named in the constitution. If an instruction is clearly erroneous, or by changed circumstances made impossible or harmful the President may decide in the best interest of the game.
    (d) In case of missing orders for a whole turn from a minister and all his delegates the President may only play on if at least two cabinet members and 3 other citizens are present in a turn chat.
    (e) The President is in charge of naming all new cities of the empire regardless of how the cities were created or assimilated. A name has to be evaluated by the citizens through an Official Poll (article IV, section 3-II) before a city is named.
    (f) The President has the power over the money reserve. Therefore every money spending decision must have the approval of the President in order to be acted on.
    (g) The President controls what government type is used in the game, but may only change this after this has been evaluated by the citizens through an Official Poll (article IV, section 3-II).

    II. The Minister of Domestic Affairs
    (a) The Minister of Domestic Affairs is responsible for managing all cities. Including their distribution of specialist citizens and production queues, rushed production requests and disbanding of cities.
    (b) The Minister of Domestic Affairs can disband a city only after the citizens evaluate this action through an Official Poll (article IV, section 3-II.)
    (c) The action of Rush buy build queue items can only be performed with the President's approval.
    (d) The Minister of Domestic Affairs is ultimately responsible for settlers, choosing site for new cities and moving these units to this site.
    (e) The Minister of Domestic Affairs is in charge of all the Empire settings and sliders, including Rations, Workday, Wages, Public Works rate and Science rate.
    (f) The Minister of Domestic Affairs controls research.

    III. The Minister of Infrastructure and Foreign Affairs
    (a) The Minister of Infrastructure and Foreign Affairs is ultimately responsible for the placement of tile improvements, choosing the best tile and the best improvement, with the current reserve of public workers.
    (b) The Minister of Infrastructure and Foreign Affairs is responsible for gifts, requests, exchanges and agreements with other nations. Any paying of gold has to be approved by the President.
    (c) The Minister of Infrastructure and Foreign Affairs can only propose a gift to another civilization or give in to a demand of tribute with the approval of the president. Peace treaties need the approval of the Minister of Defence.
    (d) The Minister of Infrastructure and Foreign Affairs controls all internal and foreign trade.

    IV. The Minister of Defence
    (a) The Minister of Defence controls all units and their orders including the disband order, except settlers.
    (b) Spending gold with the unconventional units orders has to be approved by President. Any action which would result in a declaration of war has to be evaluated by the citizens through an Official Poll (article IV, section 3-II).
    (c) Any action which would result in a declaration of war has to be evaluated by the citizens through an Official Poll (article IV, section 3-II).

    Article III: Judicial Branch
    1. Purpose:

    The Court is constituted to rule upon: contested disputes involving legal interpretation, validity of polls and elections, violations of the Constitution, or any other legal dispute involving the game.

    2. Construct of the Court:

    (a) The Court is composed of 3 Judges who will serve a three-month term of office. There is no limit to the number of terms a Judge may serve.
    (b) Each Judge has to be elected by the people in a separate election poll. Every month one of the Judge positions shall be open for election. This position shall be the one of the Judge who has reached the end of his term.
    (c) The moment the election of a Judge position starts, shall be the moment on which the Judge who enters the last month of his term becomes the Senior Justice.
    (d) Section 2(c) only applies to regular elections at the end of a Judge's term. It does not apply to elections that take place to replace impeached Judges. The replacement for an impeached Judge shall serve for the remainder of the term that their predecessor was serving. If the Senior Justice was impeached, the new Judge shall become the Senior Justice. If another Judge was impeached, the Senior Justice shall keep his position.
    (e) A Judge may not serve in other governmental posts.

    3. Cases:

    (a) The Court can only rule on cases filed. Any citizen, who is not a Judge, by publicly notifying the Senior Justice, may file a case. This case must involve a dispute that the Court is empowered to rule upon.
    (b) The Senior Justice will either accept or deny the case. If the case is denied, the Senior Justice will publicly inform the filer of the case, explaining the reason for the denial.
    c) The filer of a case may appeal a denial by posting a Resolution Poll (Article IV Section 3-III.) The court must accept the case if a simple majority votes to overturned the denial. The court must deny the case if a simple majority votes to uphold the denial. In the event of a tie, the Senior Judge must decide whether to accept the case. No further appeal is allowed after the completion of the Resolution Poll.
    (d) If the case filed deals with the constitutionality of a poll, the judges may make an immediate ruling without the use of a public hearing if all the judges agree with the ruling. The owner of the thread or the person who filed the case may challenge the ruling. A public hearing will then be commenced to hear the case.
    (e) Upon acceptance the Senior Justice is to open a thread with the description of the case. A public hearing will be held in that thread lasting three days unless Section 3(d) applies.
    (f) After three days, the thread will be closed and the Senior Justice will organize the Court's ruling. At least two Judges must vote on any ruling that is made. All rulings are immediately official and final as soon as two Judges have voted in favour of it.
    (g) The only possibility of an appeal is a Resolution poll put up by the citizen that filed the case, the respondent or by a Minister or the President. In that case, the current verdict is placed on hold until after the appeal is voted upon. The ruling of the Court can be declared void by means of a Resolution poll.
    (h) If a ruling is declared void by appeal, a new public hearing will be held in accordance with sections 3(e), 3(f) and 3(g), with the exception that the public hearing may be closed in less than three days if the Court deems this appropriate.

    4. Rights and responsibilities:

    (a) The Court may make its own rules of procedure and enforce them upon citizens who are before it, so long as such rules are in accordance with the constitution.
    (b) The Court will keep a record of all disputes, issues, and hearings before the Court. The Court will also keep a public record of the Constitution in its most current form. The Court may appoint any willing citizen to be the Clerk of the Court to keep these records.
    (c) If the Court rules that the actions of certain Citizens are in violation with the Constitution or other rules of Atlantis, it may hand out punishments to these Citizens if it deems this appropriate. The Court will determine for itself what kind of punishment is applied. The punishment must fit the crime. However, no punishments may permanently affect a Citizens participation in the Democracy Game, the Court may not dismiss active members of government (although it is allowed to start up impeachment procedures as described in Article V) and the Court may not alter the Constitution (although it is allowed to start an Amendment poll, as described in Article IV).
    (d) Punishments the Court hands out may include but are not limited to: warnings, impeachment procedures, barring Citizens from specific or any government offices in future elections, banning Citizens from the Democracy Game, declaring resolutions void, closing threads or polls, deleting or editing posts or threads, declaring polls invalid. The CtP-Democracy Game moderator must approve of any punishments that require his/her action. The moderator shall offer an explanation to the Court if approval is not given.
    (e) The Court may issue an injunction to halt any aspect of the game for up to 72 hours if at least two Judges agree to do so. Injunctions may only be issued for good cause. An injunction may only be continued beyond 72 hours if all three Judges agrees to do so. An injunction may be overturned at any time by a majority of the Court.
    (f) The Court is responsible for organizing elections. It shall post election polls and nomination threads whenever they are needed, as defined in article II and article IV.
    Last edited by checkMate; February 18, 2003, 00:04.
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    • #3
      Article IV: Polling Rules

      1. Definition and validity:

      (a) All official decision-making will be done through polls, in which Citizens can express their opinion on issues. A poll is the standard vBB poll feature in which people can anonymously vote for one of a list of options.
      (b) Any Poll that is not Unofficial (see section 3) and that violates any of the rules specified in this Article will be declared invalid.
      (c) Any polls not declared ELECTION, RESOLUTION, AMENDMENT, or OFFICIAL will be considered Unofficial.
      (d) The Court has the right to rule over the validity of polls. Invalid polls should be considered Unofficial and may be closed if the Court requests this.

      2. Poll Organization:

      (a) The first post of all polls must contain the following elements:
      * A clear and unbiased explanation of the question and the answers, if needed;
      * Expiration date, if applicable;
      * Links to related threads or other information sources, if any;
      * Type (see section 4) and nature of the poll: information gathering or decision-making.
      (b) Two types of poll organization are allowed: Yes/No polls and multiple-choice polls.
      (c) Yes/No polls must have three options of which only one can be chosen. The three options must be:
      * Yes, meaning that the voter agrees with what was stated in the poll;
      * No, meaning that the voter does not agree with what was stated in the poll;
      * Abstain, meaning that the voter does not have a specific opinion on what was stated in the poll or does not wish to express it. Abstain votes may not be considered to say anything about what was stated in the poll.
      (d) Alternative terms for 'Yes' and 'No' may be used in a Yes/No poll, as long as their meaning is along the same lines as 'Yes' and 'No' (examples: 'I agree'/'I don't agree' or 'In favour'/'Against'). Terms are along the same lines as 'Yes' and 'No' when the question in the poll can be rephrased so that it can be answered with 'Yes' or 'No'.
      (e) Multiple choice polls must have at least three options and cannot be multiple-selection. Such polls must at least have an Abstain option as defined in section 3(c). All other options are open for the poll creator to fill in as he wishes, as long as they are clear and unbiased.

      3. Poll Types:

      There are 5 types of polls: Election polls, Official polls, Resolutions, Amendments and Unofficial polls.

      I. Election polls:
      (a) These polls must be started by the Court. They serve to elect the persons who will fulfill the official positions of the executive and judicial branches of the government, as defined in Article II and Article III of this Constitution.
      (b) The subject line must contain the word 'ELECTION', written in capital letters, and the name of the office for which the election is held.
      (c) They have to be multiple-choice polls with only the names of the candidates and Abstain as options. They can only be decision-making polls, they cannot be used for information gathering.
      (e) They must follow the rules as defined in Article V of this Constitution.
      (f) Election polls in accordance with section 1-h of Article V shall expire in five days and the Court must include the expiring day in the first post of the poll.

      II. Official polls:
      (a) These polls must be started by members of the executive branch of the government, as defined in Article II of this Constitution, and relate to the game.
      (b) The subject line must contain the word 'OFFICIAL', written in capital letters.
      (c) They can be either Yes/No or multiple-choice polls and can be used for either information gathering or decision-making.
      (d) The government official who started the poll may or may not follow the opinion of the majority of the voters. In case he or she does not follow what was decided, he or she must make this decision public. Failure to do so will be regarded withholding of information, as defined in Article I section 5, and can serve as grounds for Impeachment (see Article V).
      (e) Official polls shall only expire in a day chosen by the officer who opened the poll. And if the poll has an expiring day the same officer who started it must include this information in the first post.

      III. Resolutions:
      (a) These polls can be started by any Citizen, including members of the government, and must be used to propose resolutions. Resolutions, if passed, modify the rules that clearly affect the course of the game, the policy of the executive branch of the government (as defined in Article II of this Constitution), or the decisions of the judicial branch in the case of appeals (as defined in Article III of this Constitution.) Resolutions for impeachments shall be decided according to Chapter 2 of Article V.
      (b) The subject line must contain the word 'RESOLUTION', written in capital letters.
      (c) They have to be Yes/No polls.
      (d) Resolutions may not violate or change the Constitution. Resolutions may change, amend or remove any existing resolutions or judicial decisions regarding resolutions.
      (e) If more than 1/2 of the voters votes in favour of the resolution, at least 1/3 of all Citizens vote in the poll and the Court does not declare the poll invalid, the resolution is considered passed. All Citizens must from that time on obey it.
      (f) Resolutions of the Constitution must be recorded by the Court. The person who proposed the Resolution that has been passed must inform the Court of this as soon as possible.
      (g) The Court will resolve all conflicts of resolutions. The Court's ruling on an interpretation of a resolution is of the same power and authority as that resolution.
      (h) Resolution polls shall expire in three days and the citizen who started the poll must include the expiring day in its first post.

      IV. Amendments:
      (a) These polls can be started by any Citizen, including members of the government, and must be used to propose Amendments to this Constitution.
      (b) The subject line must contain the word 'AMENDMENT', written in capital letters.
      (c) They have to be Yes/No polls.
      (d) Amendments may change/append/override any existing Laws, judicial decisions regarding Laws or any number of existing sections of the Constitution.
      (e) If more than 1/2 of the voters votes in favour of the Law, at least 1/3 of all Citizens vote in the poll and the Court does not declare the poll invalid, the Amendment is considered passed. All Citizens must from that time on obey it.
      (f) Amendments of the Constitution must be recorded by the Court. The person who proposed an Amendment that has been passed must inform the Court of this as soon as possible.
      (f) Amendment polls shall expire in five days and the citizen who started the poll must include the expiring day in its first post.

      V. Unofficial polls:
      (a) These polls can be started by any Citizen, including members of the government.
      (b) They may only exist to debate or gather information. Their outcome should not affect the course of the game or the policy of the government.
      (c) Unofficial polls are the only polls in which more than one option may be chosen from the list of options.
      (d) They do not have to follow all the rules specified in this Article. However, rules specified in Article I of this Constitution must still be obeyed.


      Article V: Government Changes

      1. Elections

      (a) The Court is empowered to oversee all elections and is empowered to resolve any election disputes according to the rules in this Constitution.
      (b) An officer can leave his office in three ways:
      * The term of the office ends.
      * The officer is impeached.
      * The officer resigns.
      (c) Eight days before the end of any government position term, the court has to initiate an election process. The previous officer will remain in office until the end of the term or until a new candidate is elected, whichever is the later.
      (d) If an officer resigns or is impeached, the timing of the election process and allocation of duties is as described in Section 2.
      (e) At the start of the election process, the Court must start a nomination thread. All citizens who wish to be candidates for an office must publicly express their nomination in this thread. For this they have three days.
      (f) No citizen may be a candidate for an elected office if such candidacy might cause this citizen to be in more than one elected office simultaneously.
      (g) If no candidate is nominated the Court shall extend the nominations for a further three days. This extension can be repeated indefinitely.
      (h) Once the time in which citizens may express their candidacy for a given elected office has expired, the Court will create an Election poll (see Article IV, Subsection 3-I) for the office, with the names of the candidates as options. The poll shall expire in five days.
      (i) If only one candidate is available for an office, a Yes/No poll shall be held to decide if this person may serve in this office. This poll shall expire in five days.
      (j) If the single candidate is rejected by a majority of voters then the Court shall reopen nominations for that office.
      (k) The candidate who received the majority of the votes when the election thread expires will be declared the new holder of the office for which he was a candidate.
      (l) In case of a tie in the election poll, the other newly elected members of the same branch of government position in question whose election polls were not tied will vote again to decide which one of the tied candidates will take over this position. If all polls for executive branch positions are simultaneously tied then the Court (including the newly elected member, if there is one) shall select the President, and the President shall select the other ministers from the tied candidates in their respective election polls.

      2. Impeachment

      (a) Any Citizen may bring the case of impeachment of an elected Minister, President, or Judge to a member of the Court.
      (b) The Court shall review the allegations made, allow an answer by the accused, and by a vote determine if there are proper and legal grounds to hold a Resolution poll to decide on impeachment. If the accusations are found to be without legal merit, the allegations shall be dismissed.
      (c) Should a member of the Court be the subject of impeachment, he shall not take part in the decision by The Court. The President shall sit in this Court member place for the sole determination of whether the impeachment has merit, and shall be considered a "Judge" for that vote only.
      (d) If the Court decides there are grounds for impeachment, it shall start a poll in which it clearly states the person to be impeached and outlines the events that led to the request for impeachment. If the impeachment is confirmed by a majority of the voters in the poll, the officer in question shall be removed from the office, losing all rights and responsibilities thereof.
      (e) Elections for a replacement shall be started only if they could conclude at least one week before the end of the term for the office. If elections are not started a temporary replacement can be chosen as described in paragraph (h).
      (f) The Court may open nominations for a replacement for the impeached official at any time while the impeachment poll is open if it considers that the impeachment is likely to occur. In this case, the nomination thread must clearly state that the election is conditional on the impeachment of the official.
      (g) If the impeachment poll closes and the officer is impeached and nominations have not yet begun, then the Court must start them as soon as possible.
      (h) The Court may choose a willing citizen to fill that office until a replacement is elected. The chosen citizen will have the word temporary as a prefix to the name of their office.

      3. Resignations

      (a) Any officer may announce his desire to resign at any time.
      (b) Elections for a replacement shall be started be the court upon this announcement only if they could conclude at least one week before the end of the term for the office.
      (c) The officer who wishes to resign shall be requested to remain in office until a replacement is elected.
      (d) If the officer is unwilling to remain in office, then the Court may choose a willing citizen to fill that office until a replacement is elected. The chosen citizen will have the word temporary as a prefix to the name of their office.
      Last edited by checkMate; February 18, 2003, 00:06.
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      • #4
        Changes

        I. Bill of Rights:
        ================================================== =========
        1. "Civ Group" instead of "CivGroup"
        6. without his or her consent instead of "without consent"

        II. Government Positions
        ================================================== =========
        I.(f) "to be acted on." instead of "to be act."
        II.(b) moved the word "only" to improve clarity.
        II.(c) "performed" instead of "perfomed".
        III.(Title) "Infrastructure" instead of "Infrastruture"
        III.(a) "Infrastructure" instead of "Infrastruture"
        III.(c) "Peace" instead of "Disarmament"
        V.(Title) Left it as Defence
        V.(a) Left it as Defence
        Arcticle III. Judicial Branch
        ================================================== =========
        3.(a) "publicly" instead of "publically"
        3.b.2 moved to 3.c and wording was changed

        was:
        < b.2) A denial may be appealed by the filer of the case by posting a Resolution poll. The poll must provide only two options a) "overturn case denial", b) "uphold case denial." The court must accept cases if the overturn case denial option wins by a simple majority. The court must deny the case if the "uphold case denial" option wins by a simple majority. In the event of a tie, the Senior Judge must decide whether to accept the case. No further appeal is allowed after the completion of the Resolution Poll.

        is:
        > c) The filer of a case may appeal a denial by posting a Resolution Poll (Article IV Section 3-III.) The court must accept the case if a simple majority votes to overturned the denial. The court must deny the case if a simple majority votes to uphold the denial. In the event of a tie, the Senior Judge must decide whether to accept the case. No further appeal is allowed after the completion of the Resolution Poll.

        Renumbering
        3.c) becomes 3.d)
        3.e) becomes 3.f)
        3.f) becomes 3.g)

        3.d) Was re-written in active voice (This refers to the new 3.d) )

        4.c) grammer change
        is:
        The Court will determine for itself what kind of punishment is applied. The punishment must fit the crime.
        was:
        The Court will determine for itself what kind of punishment is applied, the punishment must fit the crime.

        4.d) may instead of must
        is:
        (d) Punishments the Court hands out may include but are not limited to:....
        was:
        (d) Punishments the Court hands out must include but are not limited to:....

        4.d) grammer of last sentence, active voice and fewer run-on sentances
        was:
        Punishments which require action from the CtP-Democracy Game forum moderator must be approved by this moderator, who shall offer an explanation to the Court if approval is not given.
        is:
        The CtP-Democracy Game moderator must approve of any punishments that require his/her action. The moderator shall offer an explanation to the Court if approval is not given.

        Arcticle IV. Polling Rules
        ================================================== =========
        1.(a) "descision-making" instead of "decision making"
        2.(d) Left it as favour
        2.(e) "mutiple-selection" instead of "multiple selection"
        3.I.(c) Added requirement for "Abstain" option
        3.I.(f) Reference Change "1-h" instead of "1-f" in Article V

        3.III.(a) Added clause for appeals to match with Article III 3.c)
        was:
        (a) These polls can be started by any Citizen, including members of the government, and must be used to propose resolutions. Resolutions, if passed, modify the rules that clearly affect the course of the game or the policy of the executive branch of the government (as defined in Article II of this Constitution). Except in case of impeachments which shall be decide according to Chapter 2 of Article V.
        is:
        (a) These polls can be started by any Citizen, including members of the government, and must be used to propose resolutions. Resolutions, if passed, modify the rules that clearly affect the course of the game, the policy of the executive branch of the government (as defined in Article II of this Constitution), or the decisions of the judicial branch in the case of appeals (as defined in Article III of this Constitution.) Resolutions for impeachments shall be decided according to Chapter 2 of Article V.

        3.III.(c) Removed the redudandant "Multiple-choice polls are not allowed as resolutions."
        3.III.(e) Left it as favour
        3.IV.(c) Removed the redudandant "Multiple-choice polls are not allowed as resolutions."
        3.IV.(e) Left it as favour

        Article V: Government Changes
        ================================================== =========
        I.(h) Changed incorrect reference "Article IV" intead of "Article II"

        I.(k) grammer
        was:
        (k) The candidate who received the majority of the votes and the election thread expires, this person will be declared the new holder of the office for which he was a candidate.
        is:
        (k) The candidate who received the majority of the votes when the election thread expires will be declared the new holder of the office for which he was a candidate.
        Last edited by checkMate; February 18, 2003, 00:10.
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        • #5
          Re: AMMENDMENT Poll: Grammer, Spelling and a few other minor changes.

          Originally posted by checkMate
          In a effort to produce a more Anal Retentive version of the Constitution. I offer the following edits for the approval of Qinns et.al....
          Thats QUinns, not Qinns.

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          • #6
            And Poll not Pole... (more retentativeness)

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            • #7
              AMMENDMENT Poll: [...] Spelling [...]
              Does anyone else think this is rather ironic?
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              • #8


                I may join this if thay can get it right or was that left?
                J/K

                I mean amend it and see what happyn's

                “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                Or do we?

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                • #9
                  I didn't say I could speeel without a speel checker now did I ?



                  The real text there is checked pretty good. Honest, that is my story and I stick to it.
                  If it ain't broke, find a bigger hammer.

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                  • #10
                    Some of those are changed to American, and I demand an English constitution which can be read by all

                    I will hold my vote for now.

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                    • #11
                      I must admit I don't like the Americanisations, everyone knows the British spelling is the correct one
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                      • #12
                        You say tamato, but I say tamato.
                        You say favour, but I say favor?
                        If it ain't broke, find a bigger hammer.

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                        • #13
                          I say Favour, but I say fix the anal retentive thing...or something to that effect.
                          All rise of the honourable Miggio, for 2 months at least.

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                          • #14
                            Well I have retreated from my imperialist American spelling. And other wrong spelling as well.
                            Perhaps this will garner a few more votes for the better spelling.

                            If it ain't broke, find a bigger hammer.

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                            • #15
                              I never liked Noel Webster.

                              I guess I should say yes now.

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