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  • #46
    I need screenshots to exchange with AC & GS and a list of current techs. I will look to the tech thread to see if it is accurate.
    Banano Laŭrajta Registaro en Ekzilo - Bananoj gismorte!| Cows O' Plenty|Wish List For ciV | Ming on Spammers: ...And, how do you know that I'm not just spamming by answering him |"This is all about peace; and in the quest for peace you have none." -my son wise beyond his years

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    • #47
      once again right on the mark

      many thanks for your hard work
      anti steam and proud of it

      CDO ....its OCD in alpha order like it should be

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      • #48
        Okay its way to late now to play the turn, but in the morning I'll get you screen shots...
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        • #49
          from GS:

          We at GS are also discussing this topic with great interest.

          nye
          Banano Laŭrajta Registaro en Ekzilo - Bananoj gismorte!| Cows O' Plenty|Wish List For ciV | Ming on Spammers: ...And, how do you know that I'm not just spamming by answering him |"This is all about peace; and in the quest for peace you have none." -my son wise beyond his years

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          • #50
            I replied the same to GS and AC...
            This is great news! We were afraid that we had offended both of your nations. Team Banana hopes that this arrangement can be agreed on soon so that our 3 nations may continue building for the future in friendship.

            -The Diplomatic Banana

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            • #51
              can there be success with Vox and Dtorm at each others heels ?
              anti steam and proud of it

              CDO ....its OCD in alpha order like it should be

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              • #52
                Yes this can be a success as long as GS is not playing us for the fool.

                All I saw is that GS attacked 1 Vox unit which was later killer by lions or something.

                I'd like to see a response from GS soon. It is interesting that Vox mentioned that GS goes for long periods with out communication. This is what the do to us. the again that might be the way of this game. I have noticed the same from all teams actually - myself included.

                Yes. I do think the AC/Banana & maybe GS Open Tech Agreement working.
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                • #53
                  to AC and GS...
                  My friends of the Gathering Storm & Alpha Centuri,

                  Here is the promised list of Team Banana's current technologies. As you see we need to come to a decision soon. Team Banana wants this open tech agreement but time is pushing us to make a decision on what to study next. Some agrue that we cannot neglect defense waiting for this agreement to be signed and begun - they argue for Iron Working next. Others argue that this would be redundant at best since Iron Working is discovered and harmful to the agreement at worst. We have sent our wisest to the mountain to smoke banana peels as is our way. Hopefully the Great Banana will give us a sign.

                  Would an exchange of screenshots and maps help? Gathering Storm, In which direction should we lay our roads so that trade can begin between our nations?

                  Wheel
                  Agriculture
                  Mysticism
                  Mining
                  Animal Husbandry
                  Meditation
                  Priesthood
                  Bronze Working

                  Pottery in 1 turn

                  Peace,
                  The Diplomatic Banana

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                  • #54
                    couple days and no response

                    hmmm....

                    how long should we wait ??
                    anti steam and proud of it

                    CDO ....its OCD in alpha order like it should be

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                    • #55
                      This came yesterday after I checked...

                      Hello to the People of the Banana

                      We have had some productive discussions with the Alpha Centaurians very recently. Unfortunately, it seems your desire for a totally open technology agreement is unlikely to meet with their approval. Meanwhile, they seem genuinely interested in an arrangement where tech is traded using beakers as the basis for calculating even trades. Assuming this is so, Gathering Storm would be pleased to trade on the same basis with Team Banana.

                      Part of our discussions with Alpha Centaurians focused on basic terms whereby all three of our teams could be assured of a long and equitable trade relationship. To this end several principles were raised and discussed. These principles would begin to form the basis of an agreement to promote peace, trade, and technology exchanges among the Alpha Centaurians, Team Banana, and Gathering Storm. There have been four points raised to date:
                      1. technology would be exchanged among the three teams on an even exchange basis
                      2. each of the three civs agrees not to retrade any technology acquired in trade from one of the three
                      3. trades arranged are kept even if a tech to be traded for is acquired by other means
                      4. each of the three teams agrees to an embargo on the team known as Vox. Technology will never be traded with Vox and borders with them will remain closed forever.

                      Please let us know how Team Banana feels about these proposals. We at Gathering Storm feel that they are a beginning in efforts to establish an era of peace with prosperity among the Alpha Centaurians, Team Banana, and Gathering Storm.

                      To aid in planning for possible technology exchanges, Gathering Storm has the following technologies: The Wheel, Agriculture, Hunting, Mysticism, Mining, Pottery, Archery, and Bronze Working. We are pursuing Mathematics via Writing (which will be complete soon). We also have Polytheism for all practical purposes since we are close to completing research of it. We are very interested in Team Banana's Animal Husbandry. Additional trades could be made for Meditation and Priesthood.

                      To encourage efforts for trade, and because we appreciate your recent forthcoming messages, I am sending you a shot that will show the land that seperates Team Banana from Gathering Storm. We feel it would be productive to establish a border between us and welcome Team Banana's feelings on this topic. Please see the end of this message. The rice near Splitsville is at the top of the shot. The outer ring of our capital is visible in Blue and of Vox's capital in red at the bottom.

                      Finally, a word on the civ known as Vox. Gathering Storm has been at war with this civ since shortly after contact. We would have preferred to avoid war since building things is much more productive than destroying them, however we felt we had no choice given their early behaviour that featured deceit and a laughing disregard for reasonable requests we made of them. Seeing as the possibility for peaceful coexistance with this civ is gone, Gathering Storm is fully committed to their complete destruction. As you read this message Vox's single city is being choked by Stormian Skirmishers, denying Vox the use of their most productive tiles. There is no evidence of even a single worker in Voxian lands. In short, they seem to be doomed. The reason we tell you this is by way of letting Team Banana know that we would find it difficult to accept a civ friendly to us giving any aid or other support to the civ known as Vox. Thus we request that Team Banana take our concerns into account in contacts with Vox.

                      We look forward to hearing from Team Banana at your earliest convenience so that we may continue moving forward towards a productive relationship.

                      Regards
                      nye



                      I say yes. Vox is almost dead anyway. But we need Iron Working now or we will be next.
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                      • #56
                        My quick reply...
                        NYE of the Gathering Storm,

                        We are discussing the terms. Things look favorable for a deal between our three nations. Stand by for an answer.

                        Yea BANANA!
                        -The Diplomatic Banana

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                        • #57
                          GS attached this to the previous email concerning Techs and Vox.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Daddy-O


                            I say yes. Vox is almost dead anyway. But we need Iron Working now or we will be next.
                            lets trade !!
                            anti steam and proud of it

                            CDO ....its OCD in alpha order like it should be

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                            • #59
                              I will send something today to AC and GS.
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                              • #60
                                I sent the following to AC & GS. Come on we have to be close here!


                                Tech Trade Treaty (3T)

                                Hail friends,

                                We are very pleased that there is so much interest in the equitable exchange of techs and the building of our nations friendship. NYE of Gathering Storm sent us tenative terms for an ongoing trade deal among our three nations: Alpha Centuri, Gathering Storm, & Team Banana. These are as follows:

                                1. technology would be exchanged among the three teams on an even exchange basis
                                2. each of the three civs agrees not to retrade any technology acquired in trade from one of the three
                                3. trades arranged are kept even if a tech to be traded for is acquired by other means
                                4. each of the three teams agrees to an embargo on the team known as XXXXXXXX. Technology will never be traded with XXXXXXXX and borders with them will remain closed forever.

                                I blocked out XXXXXXXX because I am not sure if AC knows of who we speak.

                                Team Banana has the following minor suggested changes:
                                1. Technology trades will be based on beakers with equality being the goal.
                                2. each of the three civs agrees not to retrade any technology to a non-member party acquired in trade from one of the three; without prior agreement of all three member nations.
                                3. trades arranged are kept even if a tech to be traded for is acquired by other means
                                4. each of the three teams agrees to an embargo on the team known as XXXXXXXX. Technology will never be traded with XXXXXXXX and borders with them will remain closed forever.
                                5. tech trade arragements among member nations will be common knowledge to member nations - ie. when a trade deal is finalized all 3 members will be notified even if only 2 parties are involved in the trade.

                                We three neighbors are forming the basis for a long term bond. We should not use the fruits of this friendship to strengthen other nations or for short term gains of of own.

                                Alpha Centuri recently offered Team Banana an exchange of (Iron Working and Writing for Meditation, Fishing and Sailing) to be followed the next turn with (Priesthood for Archery).

                                Knowing that we can come to some terms for the Tech Trade Treaty. Our friends the Alpha Centurians can consider this a deal.

                                Gathering Storm, I am sure that as soon as we come to terms, we can stike a deal to get you Animal Husbandry. The Wise men of The Great Banana (whose name dare not be uttered) are looking into options now.

                                Our three nations are so close to terms for the foundation of this Tech Trade Treaty that it is safe to say that we just need to dot the "i's" and cross the "t's".

                                These are great days!
                                The Diplomatic Banana


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                                Any ideas for a trade with GS?
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