Qin it is (Chinese)

[Kataphraktoi]

Whats the problem...a cottage heavy start is still good with or without OP forests. And even if forests arnt unbalanced they will still be a decent choice.

[-SafaN-]

my idea of a good general strat (not counting in wonders):

research: bronze, wheel, pottery

then any tech we need to link a good resource (masonry/fishing/animal)

hunting and archery if we have no horses or bronze

then going for writing/alphabet line

building: worker first, chop worker, chop settler

settler build city at stone/marble/bronze site

one of the cities concentrates on making units, the other can build wonder or other infrastructure.

a think to mark, do u think the using of great engineers is a waste for industrious civs, since they build wonders @ half cost?

[Maniac]

I played half a game as China, and a b-line to the Kolos and Lighthouse really rocks.

[Snoddasmannen]

Cool, did you have stone and marble in that game? We would have a pretty awesome production bonus with those.

[N35t0r]

With the chop nerf, I'd let the city grow after the worker to 2 or 3...

[SebP]

yes. and:
i haven't played version 1.61 yet, but i have been thinking: if we are not gonna chop because of the nerf, why even develop BW and build a worker right away? perhaps wheel/pottery first would be better. at the same time, building a warrior then a worker

we can still develop BW wile building the settler (i also say, wait to size 2 for that. maybe another warrior after the worker)

did anyone test a few starts out with the new patch? i can't, right now

[PJayTycy]

Originally posted by SebP
did anyone test a few starts out with the new patch? i can't, right now

I'll do a few tests.

[N35t0r]

I've only done Marathon and old saves since I patched.

BTW, the Horde has the save, so we're next...

[PJayTycy]

The save is already with us