Turn 17, 3360BC

[Hot Mustard]

Re: Turn 17, 3360BC

Turn 17, 3360BC

Units
Grog: Healing
New Warrior: Fortified in EotS, Renamed to Spinebreaker

Science
Current: Polytheism in 2 turns


Cities

Eye of the Storm (Size 3)
Growth: 7/26, paused for Worker build
Production: Warrior completed, started Worker - 10 turns





As nye already mentioned, somebody else founded Hinduism, so our gambit has failed. Don't think I've ever failed to get a religion with a flood plains start before - this does not bode well.

We got contact with Vox this turn and can now see them in the graphs - analysts, go nuts!

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Vox has jumped to 64 score from 51.

The Voice grew to size 3, and I would assume they discovered a religious tech.

But since we now have contact with them, we at least know they weren't the ones to get Polytheism. Assuming it would have shown the Hinduism symbol by their name right away.

Can we maybe tell who got it by the influence factor in the Religion screen (21% vs only 16% for the founder of Buddism)?

[nbarclay]

Assuming my memory isn't totally screwed up, the religion symbols only show up when a civ switches to a religion as its official state religion. So if Vox founded Hinduism but hasn't adopted it as their state religion yet, the symbol wouldn't show by their name.

(When playing a non-Spiritual civ, I often wait until I've built my first settler to switch, and then do the switch while the settler is traveling. That way changing religions doesn't delay my first settler, and since the settler can travel during anarchy, it doesn't delay anything about the second city's establishment or progress either.)

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by nbarclay
Assuming my memory isn't totally screwed up, the religion symbols only show up when a civ switches to a religion as its official state religion. So if Vox founded Hinduism but hasn't adopted it as their state religion yet, the symbol wouldn't show by their name.

(When playing a non-Spiritual civ, I often wait until I've built my first settler to switch, and then do the switch while the settler is traveling. That way changing religions doesn't delay my first settler, and since the settler can travel during anarchy, it doesn't delay anything about the second city's establishment or progress either.)

However, since we have contact with them - wouldn't the religion screen show us who founded the religion if it was Vox - or must we have seen the founding city too?

[nbarclay]

Originally posted by dejon

However, since we have contact with them - wouldn't the religion screen show us who founded the religion if it was Vox - or must we have seen the founding city too?

I've had times when I've met the civ that founded a religion but the religion screen still showed the founder as unknown. I'm almost positive that there have even been times when I knew from the icon by a civ's name who founded a religion, but the religion screen still came up unknown.

[Blake]

There's no sense in finishing Polytheism switch to Hunting.

i can think of at least 3 good reasons to not finish poly:
1) save a turn or 2 on hunting.
2) finishing it discounts it for others.
3) makes it harder to track what we're researching.

[notyoueither]

How rapid is decay?

[nbarclay]

In regard to learning about other civs' religions, in Hotseat, you know about the state religions of other human civs even if you haven't met them yet. So if PBEM works the same way, we should find out for sure who founded what religion when they switch to their new religions as their state religion.

In regard to decay, I've never noticed any decay doing something along the lines of switching from where we are to research Hunting and then switching back to finish Polytheism after we get Hunting. My impression is that we'd be pressing our luck to try to do much more than that, but it's only an impression, not anything backed by rigorous experimentation or even much experience.

[Mudhut]

I too think it's a good idea to switch to Hunting straight away.