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Okay, I'll bring it up again if there are no IND teams.
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How, exactly? I've seen this mentioned before, but I've never really analyzed the graphs all that closely...Originally posted by DeepO
*snip*wonder builds were quite easily spotted before from the power and score graphs
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Or if we have access to stone, dejon. It's certainly worth a serious discussion if we have stone, even if we're not IND. *I* might still be against, but I'm occasionally wrong
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Plateaus, I'm guessing.Originally posted by Arrian
How, exactly? I've seen this mentioned before, but I've never really analyzed the graphs all that closely...
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Nearly missed this, if it wasn't for Krill's report.Originally posted by Arrian
Ok, any thoughts on who should be our SecDef (Minister of Defense, for you Euros )? Given that I agree with DeepO that the position should emphasize organizing the Scholia's decisions and communicating them to the turnplayer (instead of turn-by-turn MMing of military moves), I would be willing to do the job, if the team approves. I certainly spend enough time on this forum!!
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You've got my vote, Arrian!
Let's see...
president..... check
turnplayer.... check
min of def..... check.
So all we need is a diplo nazi, and possibly an intelligence guy. I might try the intelligence thing myself, so who wants to be our diplomatic leader?
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Sorry... I've got to run. LaterOriginally posted by Arrian
How, exactly? I've seen this mentioned before, but I've never really analyzed the graphs all that closely...
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You'd be great at intel, DeepO.
Diplo... hey, this is GS! Let's just ignore the other teams 
I'm looking at some of our newer members for SecState...
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Aro for Diplo Nazi!!
I'll can be a diplomat if required to be...You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.Comment
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The only thing about religious sentries, if I understand the term right, is that if we're too good at spreading it, another team loses nothing by converting to our religion and thus gaining the same advantage on us. Of course, it's possible to create a bit of deception with units still in the FOW from their perspective.Originally posted by Arrian
Theseus,
Agree - sentries, including religion (if we're able - I suspect other teams will not want our missionaries in their lands), will be important.
Has anyone really messed around with prebuilding units, switching to something else, and coming back? I know that Firaxis added decay of builds put aside in order to counter the possible exploit of pre-building a massive army that could appear as if by magic in 1 turn (w/o costing you any upkeep until then). But I don't know how the decay works, exactly.
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On prebuilding, I've used it a bit in my current Mansa Musa game and not noticed any decay at all. I haven't been storing builds for extended periods, though. An example would be working on barracks in the ultra-early "downtime" when I had plenty of workers/settlers/warriors either deployed or under construction and no other build choices. Then finish, say, Pottery, switch the city to a granary, and go back to a barracks when that's done.
Edit: Just saw DeepO's post on prebuilds. Mirrors what I did, but much better stated.
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I've noticed something a bit weird in SP... sometimes I don;t seem to get the XP benefit of switching to the relevant civics. I was thinking maybe it was from pre-builds started *before* those civics were in effect? Anybody?The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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Haven't seen something like this, T. Anything specific to it? I thought it was just when finishing the unit that the civic counts, but I've yet to try stacking units (e.g. have an archer, horse and axe prebuild, switch civics, finish 3 units, go back for 30 turns.). There might be some rule against exploits there... but it doesn't seem to bothr me when playing a SPI leader
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Are you referring to Theocracy? If so, make sure that your military pump cities all have your State Religion, otherwise you get no benefit.Originally posted by Theseus
I've noticed something a bit weird in SP... sometimes I don;t seem to get the XP benefit of switching to the relevant civics. I was thinking maybe it was from pre-builds started *before* those civics were in effect? Anybody?And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...Comment
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Nope, that wasn't it... I'll try to find or recreate the problem.The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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In the meantime, I was messing around with an early start as Saladin, and got whacked by a neighboring AI civ.
So that brings to mind what is perhaps the first military question: How quickly can we field units better than Warriors?The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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I took Saladin out for a spin recently and didn't fair particularly well either.
To answer your question, that depends on civ choice. If we're the Mail, we would need to research 2 techs (hunting, archery) for our archer-variant UU, or 1 tech (BW) and hope we have copper for axes, or 2 techs (hunting/argriculture, animal husbandry) and hope we have horses for chariots.
Clearly, the archery route is the safe bet.
If we're not the Mali, it could be different (if we start with hunting, archery is 1 tech away).
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