game admin role

[Paddy]

I had a chat with our game admin, Snoopy369, the other night

was asking when he would be stepping in to get this game moving along, as he being the game admin etc, and we have all agreed to a 24 hour turn rule etc

well seems he believes he has no powerz to do anything - that all teams did not want a game admin who could skip turns of teams that have not left a note that they can not play within the 24 hours etc...

so if he can not skip a team, then how can he encourage people to get their team together and get on with the game etc etc

basically of all the demo games, this one has ripped out its admins powerz

I feel that after all this time we should restore his powerz, let the lad have something to stand on, and encourage him to do his role...

this is a great game, and a LOT of time and effort has been invested by a great many people

why shouold it die from only have 70 turns played each year...

I know it is not pitboss, but surely there are enough players to hacve more than one turn player per team... it is a team game afterall



lets give Snoops a bigger ball of string to play with!

[Paddy]

see this post for stats on turns

PJayTycy stats on Game

posted by PJayTycy:

Just as information : we've been playing for about 1 year and 1 month.

In the last year, we've played 70 turns. I think that's a good overal speed, a little more than 1 turn each week. If the game is about to be decided in +/- the 280th turn, we're at 1/4th of the game.

so about 2 - 3 years of game play to go at the current rate.... as some teams may drop out and the game could speed up etc

[RobWorham]

More power to da Snoop!!

What about a 'three strikes and ya out' type rule?????

Overshoot the 24 hour turn rule 3 times and the third time Snoops presses the big red button!!!

[binTravkin]

I don't think very hard rules should be in place, but the 24h (or 36h) without notice and endturn hit rule should be quite appropriate.

The game is already going faster than up to now - we have turnaround in 4.5 days.

The 'problematic' teams are Vox and Banana who apparently have both only a single turnplayer. I guess all we can do is to urge them to do their stuff quicker and post turn sent messages more often.
It's also good we've gotten out of 'Vox gets save @weekend' loop and we should continue this practice.

For teams wanting to make the game quicker, I'd very much like to remember first take look if everything that could be done to speed up our own turnplay has been done.
This applies to Horde least of all I guess..


We, in Team AC recently started using Skype as medium for turnchats.
Remarkable and useful feaures are:
- rooms are permanent. you don't have to quit room when going offline and you recieve log of discussions taken place during your absence once you come online again.
- ability to start conference call if needs be
- you can always see who's online and start discussing important things right when you see people are there

So basically our turnplay doctrine could be broken down into two phases:
- pre-planning, taking place before arrival of the turn (most decisions being taken right after ending last turn)
- turnchats - if there's anything needing discussion, a turnchat takes place during which turn is played and sent on

Such order of turnplaying should bring down turn times to 12h (provided the turnplayer/-s can play it at 2+ different times per day) and less if used as much as possible.

[Rcoutme2]

I go along with the idea of a skipped turn as a 'warning shot across the bow'. I understand that some teams will have problems with a 24hr time limit, but the other teams want to get on with the game. If the 24 hr limit is too harsh, how about a 12-hour relief (36 hrs for first time) with that lowering by 1 hour for each subsequent offense.

Alternately, Snoopy could consider taking the turn to allow the units to complete their assigned tasks (thus the auto-turn function would progress) but would alter nothing and would queue nothing?

[Jon Miller]

A good way to make people quit.

JM

[binTravkin]

JM, you have to realize, that if one quits and others get a way quicker and interesting game, it's so much more better than going at snails pace until everyone quits.

Besides this measure was thought of to make people think before forgetting about the turn.

Having said that, I don't think you or anyone else should quit, just get the game rolling faster.
I think each team should be able to make a turn per 24h and strive to be able to make a turn in under 12h.

[Paddy]

8 teams.. we should actually have some days where we get one whole turn done in that day

and with the number of actual civ players involved here, we should be able to do that often....

not just one turn a week...

Game On!!!


edit: above where I say "one whole turn done in that day", I mean in that 24 hours, every team has played their turn, and we moved it along

[Jon Miller]

I refuse to be a slave to the turn.

I sleep and work, that is over 12, generally over 16 hours right there. If I let the save sit for a few hours, depending on the time it comes in, that can easily be over 24 hours.

The game should be allowed to play out naturally, without teams being forced to quit through penalties.

Nothing ruins a game more than for players to quit.

I do admit that Vox is sort of down right now, there are some serious issues that we are facing. If we overcome them, I think that we will speed up. If not, then the game will speed up naturally.

Jon Miller

[Paddy]

well Jon, what of the other 9 members of your team...?

for instance there are 6 of you online here at Poly right now

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Jon Miller

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Nothing ruins a game more than for players to quit.

......

Jon Miller

I beg to differ, nothing ruins a game than boredom...

[Jon Miller]

boredom ruins the game by encouraging people to quit

JM

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Paddy
well Jon, what of the other 9 members of your team...?

for instance there are 6 of you online here at Poly right now

Most people in Vox have given up.

JM

[ChrisiusMaximus]

I actually find this confusing, I actually thought the purpose of this thread was to encourage people to play their turns on time and to post that the turn was sent !

Either you are considering quitting any way or are seeking to get others accused of flaming you ? which is it Jon ?

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
boredom ruins the game by encouraging people to quit

JM

and holding up the save?

does that not cause boredom?