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  • #16
    The more we wait, the closer Warlords comes. At some point (probably around May) the crowd will say "Let's wait for Warlords then". Warlords comes out buggy. I don't need to be a prophet to predict this, all games are released this way. It'll need a patch. The patch comes out 2 months after release, as usual. This moves the start of this game to about autumn. And it will exclude those of us, who will not buy Warlords.

    I am slowly but steadily losing interest in this game.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Platypus Rex
      how about a short game on a small map ?

      just to pass the time and break in some rookies
      NYE made such a proposal a week ago. Four teams, small map. I am sure GS would be game, at least a large part of it. The people who are willing to play should be able to do so now. Even if it would demand to form new teams. This would allow those who prefer to play to start now, while those who prefer to wait can do so as long as they wish. At the moment those who are willing to play are helt hostage by those who are not.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sir Ralph
        The more we wait, the closer Warlords comes. At some point (probably around May) the crowd will say "Let's wait for Warlords then". Warlords comes out buggy. I don't need to be a prophet to predict this, all games are released this way. It'll need a patch. The patch comes out 2 months after release, as usual. This moves the start of this game to about autumn. And it will exclude those of us, who will not buy Warlords.

        That's assuming Warlords are released in summer as promised. But see, there's a catch. Summer also means September.

        I visited Firaxis site yesterday. I'm now certain that the much waited patch will not be released separately. In fact I now believe that it was planned as an enhancement to the original game as part of Warlords expansion from the very beginning.

        Here's what Firaxis posted on Warlords:



        Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Warlords

        Arriving Summer 2006

        Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Warlords is the first expansion pack for the award-winning game that has become an instant world-wide hit. Paying homage to some of history's greatest military leaders, the expansion will deliver six unique and interesting scenarios, giving players the chance to change the course of history with the help of their new powerful "warlord" unit. Civ IV: Warlords will include new civilizations, leaders, units, and wonders that will offer even more fun and exciting ways for players to expand their civilization's military power as they strive for world domination.


        ***


        Units, Resources, and Improvements – Many new items not available in the core game will be introduced in the new scenarios.

        Core Game Tweaks and Additions – Expanded features and gameplay tweaks will be made to the core game.

        Post-Release Patches and Game Upgrades – The pack will contain all of the patches and game additions (pit boss, etc.) yet released for Sid Meier's Civilization IV.

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        • #19
          The patch will be released seperately from Warlords. The above comments by Firaxis do not indicate otherwise.

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          • #20
            but before they released the patch and expansion at the same time... that is what we are claiming here

            JM
            Jon Miller-
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            • #21
              I hope people are now seeing the merit of playing the game on a smaller map now. A map style with a single continent would have helped too.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BigFree
                The patch will be released seperately from Warlords. The above comments by Firaxis do not indicate otherwise.
                Where do you know this from?
                "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                • #23
                  Well, Vox currently votes to continue waiting.

                  Jon Miller
                  Jon Miller-
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                  GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                  • #24
                    Sarantium wants to wait for the patch.

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                    • #25
                      It's released !!

                      start now!
                      no sig

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                      • #26
                        Wait, wait, wait!

                        We don't know if the patch is buggy or not.

                        It might as well be a complete mess.

                        We can't possibly start a game with a brandnew and largely untested patch.

                        I vote to wait at least eight weeks to check the patch and make sure there's not coming another one.

                        I'm dead serious!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Sir Ralph
                          largely untested patch
                          Maybe not such a good idea to say that oud loud in here
                          no sig

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                          • #28
                            Lets play!
                            Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici

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                            • #29
                              I am sure that someone tested it SR.

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                              • #30
                                Ah yes, I forgot, it's been in the Take2 QA for over a month. Never mind.

                                (With QA likely standing for Queue for Annoyance)

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