Qin it is (Chinese)

[Googlie]

Well - factions have been drawn, and we have the Chinese under Qin (Industrial & Financial), starting with Agriculture and Mining

[GeoModder]

I think we have a shot at Judaism here as state religion, but would of course, in light of our presumed and fearedbeloved leader Yang, aim for Confuciusm.

[Lacero]

/me cheers

by spamming wonders and cottages we'll easily win
We need pottery very early to get the cottages out, depending on whether we start near a river.

[Illuminatus]

Excellent faction for gameplay.

Time for hellenic gods to move to Zhongguo.

[GeoModder]

We need Snowflake for a crashcourse on Chinese Mythology.

The Seven Dragons?

[PJayTycy]

All teams info:

Team	civ	tech1	tech2	UU replaces	leader	trait1	trait2
AC	Chinese	farming	mining	crossbow (6)	Qin	industrious	financial
Sarantium	English	fishing	mining	rifleman (14->16)	Elisabeth	philosophical	financial
Banana	French	farming	the wheel	musketman (9)	Louis	organised	creative
Horde	Mongols	hunting	the wheel	horse archer (6)	Kublai Khan	agressive	creative
Vox	Russian	hunting	mining	cavalry (15->18)	Catherina	creative	financial
Gathering Storm	Malinese	the wheel	mining	archer (3->4)	Mansa Musa	spiritual	financial
Mercenary	German	hunting	mining	tank (28)	Frederick	philosophical	creative

Sarantium has our second choice, they'll probably play in the same way as we do. Mind their strong UU.
Banana will be able to buid cottages very soon, but won't be able to chop woods to accelerate the start. Their traits are both builder-traits (+culture, -upkeep).
Don't know what to think about the Horde, but they seem pretty aggressive in the public forum
Vox also has a strong UU, but don't know what would be the best-fit playstyle
GS has the same early tech-choices as we do. Their UU is very early, but not so strong.
The mercenaries are clearly the out-of-the-oridinary choice here with such a late UU.

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by GeoModder
We need Snowflake for a crashcourse on Chinese Mythology.

The Seven Dragons?

Why not merge both mythologies? This way there are more choices for our embodiments, and the merged mythology is more entertaining because of the uncertainty and slight confusion.

Best of Both Worlds

[PJayTycy]

Favourite starting techs:
mining : 5
the wheel : 3
hunting : 3
farming: 2
fishing : 1

Favourite traits:
financial : 4
creative : 4
philosophical : 2
industrious : 1
organised : 1
spiritual : 1


Now I'm off to play a few practice games with Qin against these leaders on the C4DG settings...

[GeoModder]

Well, one thing is sure: we won't be the only faction with loads of money. Our other strength, quick wonders, is where we will have the benefit early on. Which wonders will depend on our starting position, and neighbours of course.

[GeoModder]

There's an interesting dilemma here: most teams have choosen a civ which performs best with open borders (trade income), but OTOH nobody likes sneaking troops or, worse, those pesky missionaries wandering around. Also, with open borders newly found cities are highly susceptible to receiving foreign religions if they are not converted to the state religion ASAP.

[Lacero]

solution: found all religions?

ok probably not feasible in a multiplayer game. I agree we need to make lots of wonders to exploit our advantage, and also agree exactly which ones we use depends on starting position.

stonehenge -> good for early culture but means we get sucky prophets in our capital. we'll have to get a religion if we go for this.

pyramids -> if we have stone it's great. if not we can't do it IMHO.

collussus+lighthouse -> obviously good if we're on the coast, bad otherwise.

oracle->great if we can manouver ourselves to a good spot on the tech tree. alternatively we could just get it first to keep it out of others greedy hands?

[-SafaN-]

great prophets are not that bad

but in case there is much coast a collossus+lighthouse might be exelent. The other plus of this way we (prolly) won't have competition, cause for wonders like piramids and oracle i suspect all teams will shoot at it ...

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Lacero
stonehenge -> good for early culture but means we get sucky prophets in our capital. we'll have to get a religion if we go for this.

We need one for sure, if only to establish our religions' main altar. Also, any other can jump us ahead on another religious tech and get us a second religion.

Imagine this, researching towards Code of Laws and using a prophet to get Theology first. And since both of those are the first religions to come with a free missionary as well...

[ForesterSOF]

Along the way to CoL I would put Wheel and Hunting as first and second

[binTravkin]

We have mining, why not do the chop-rush if we have opportunity?