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  • #16
    lol geomodder the civpedia is broken and sucks. civfanatics for cIV info i go there when i want civ3\civ4. i go poly\cgn when i want smac...simple
    if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

    ''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''

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    • #17
      Could you test it out Kata?
      Simply by putting a city with some def bonuses on the map, a phalanx in it and an enemy city with some attacker nearby.
      You should be able to see the difference if defensive bonus is big.
      -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
      -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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      • #18
        It really doesn't matter. The in-unit these days is axemen, who can attack most things and defend against everything.

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        • #19
          I think you guys are too win-centered and conservative in the strategies you are trying to fit greeks into.
          I think the civs are a bit better balanced than that and I also think greeks certainly have some strenght if played properly.

          Want an example?
          Sparta@ACDG3
          -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
          -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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          • #20
            I sure gonna check this "no defensive bonusses" thing out.
            Guess what civ I'm playing tonight.

            And for the axeman being overpowered: Crossbow!
            He who knows others is wise.
            He who knows himself is enlightened.
            -- Lao Tsu

            SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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            • #21
              I suspect Sparta was being played by some very good players, something in short supply for Civ4. That and I hear pod results were good

              Whats wrong with being win-centric


              Originally posted by GeoModder
              And for the axeman being overpowered: Crossbow!
              Unfortunately, thats like sending a tank to beat up a rifleman. Its a wrong era unit and not a counter that can remotely be relied on.

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              • #22
                I think you guys are too win-centered and conservative in the strategies you are trying to fit greeks into.
                I think the civs are a bit better balanced than that and I also think greeks certainly have some strenght if played properly.

                Want an example?
                Sparta@ACDG3
                When the game is finished and its OK to discuss info, i can PROVE(only to you ) why the S won...not because of a good faction, and not entirely luck.

                if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

                ''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''

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                • #23
                  Whats wrong with being win-centric
                  if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

                  ''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''

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                  • #24
                    When the game is finished and its OK to discuss info, i can PROVE(only to you ) why the S won...not because of a good faction, and not entirely luck.
                    assuming the S\et all release their faction pass of course but i think i could put up a good argument for it now even without inside data on their faction,although that would help alot
                    if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

                    ''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''

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                    • #25
                      I never said win-centrism is bad, I sad 'you are being too win-centric', which basically means 'win uber alles' which I don't like.
                      -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
                      -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                      • #26
                        I dont think its excessive to pick a good civ and make a plan.
                        if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

                        ''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''

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                        • #27
                          Okay, Greeks are crap by your thoughts.
                          Romans?

                          Alternatively each of you could post 3 factions he would take in oder of priority and we could get to some consensus.
                          -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
                          -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                          • #28
                            I like Romans because of Caesar's expansive/organised trait which encourages creation of a large empire, in both horizontal and vertical sense. Cheaper granaries and reduced upkeep.

                            I find Praetorians quite more usefull than usual swordsmen.
                            SMAC/X FAQ | Chiron Archives
                            The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --G.B.Shaw

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                            • #29
                              I can't believe SMACers swaying so far from their (Olympic) roots.
                              He who knows others is wise.
                              He who knows himself is enlightened.
                              -- Lao Tsu

                              SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                              • #30
                                I guess it isn't possible to rename your civ in Civ4? That way which civ we pick wouldn't matter at all for roleplay purposes.
                                Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                                Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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