Turn 19, 3280BC

[notyoueither]

Turn 19, 3280BC
(Current Plan)

Units
Grog: Healing
Spinebreaker: move 7, or other depending on Vox scout

Science
Current: Hunting in 4
Polytheism 134/143


Cities

Eye of the Storm (Size 3)
Growth: 7/26, paused for Worker build
Production: Worker in 8 turns

Diplomacy
Declare War on Vox???

[Mudhut]

Oh my goodness! I couldn't believe this when I opened the save:



Despite our warning to keep away from our borders, and the movement of Spinebreaker to deter it, their scout has moved 8-9, right next to Spinebreaker!!

This means we can attack...if we so choose. Obviously, this is a major play, so we should discuss it thoroughly -> but this is a big opportunity IMHO.

[Mudhut]

Demographics in case you are interested:

[notyoueither]

Yep, holding the save.

I read that a majority of people want to kil the scout.

[Cort Haus]

I can't believe it. It almost makes up for losing Hinduism.

[notyoueither]

I want to hear from everyone before I declare war and attack that scout.

I will post that GS requires an extra 24 hours (not all of it) and that we will play the save early tomorrow evening Mountain time.

That gives just about everyone a chance to speak up as for or against.

Using a sim:

In game combat odds of winning displayed for warrior vs scout on hill are 95.6%.

2 Exp from winning, in a simulation.

[Theseus]

Sorry, I don;t understand how the odds get to be 95.6%...

Assuming that is correct, whack the mofo.

[notyoueither]

I placed a Catherine scout on a hill, placed a GS warrior next to it in one of the sims, declared war, and the odds of success are 95.6% as displayed by the game.

2.0 to 1.25

I think it's due to the low damage done by a scout on any hit, while one whack by the warrior does massive damage to a scout's hps.

[vulture]

We should bear in mind that Vox may yet be to the east rather than the west - they've known where we are for several turns and could theoretically have moved the scout around to the wrong side to attempt to mislead us.

[Arrian]

Those odds sound about right. In a PBEM game, I killed a scout that was on a forest tile (1.5) and my odds of victory were about 75%. 2 v. 1.25 = overwhelming odds. When life gives you sliced bread, make TOAST.

I was riding down the road one day
someone hit a possum
Riding down the road one day
someone hit a possum

Road was his end
His end was that road
So they say
Ohhhh, Possum! Possum! Possum!
YOUR END IS THE ROAD

That is you moment of Phish.

-Arrian

[Arrian]

Quick question:

If we switched up the tiles we're working for maximum hammers, how many turns to build another warrior?

-Arrian

[Cort Haus]

Also, how many turns are Vox away from Archery? They have a good head start on us.

[Ennet]

Re: Arrian

at +/- 0 fpt 3 turns for a warrior

at -2 (or 3?) fpt, 2 turns for a warrior

unless we already have some shields on a warrior but dont think so, also i dont know how long we could run at that food negative before we shrinks but from the screen it seems we have some food stocked up so we should be able to get one warrior out that way at least..

will load up the save later to check later

[Ennet]

so we're basically safe unless they have a horseman on that wine over to the east of us

[Arrian]

I wasn't thinking purely of safety. I want to find out where they are, fast. Punching out another warrior right quick to defend EotS and allowing Spiney & Grog to continue exploring might have some merit.

-Arrian