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  • #16
    Ahem.

    I'm not sn00py ... he's a singaporian/australian graphic designer who made a really cool civ3 tileset ... I'm an american occasional modder via code who administers a demogame in my 'free' time

    I'm not entirely sure whether what you're describing would be okay or not. There was quite substantial discussion pre-game about Faux Wars in general, much of it coming from NYE and Krill ... I'm going to have to read that discussion, and talk to Aeson if he's around.

    I'm torn, personally, about it; I think it might be different if you declared war for your own, non-military reasons, than if you talked to Vox about it. One is a war for what could certainly be considered valid reasons; the second, even if it's not straight-up collusion, appears as such to the rest of the teams.
    One of the main arguments against Faux Wars was to avoid collusion, ie two teams claiming to be at war together and then actually being allied, and gaining significant strategic advantage from doing so. You might argue that's a valid strategic tactic ... and certainly some do ... but if I recall the pre-game chat, many don't (or at least didn't). You're not, precisely, doing this here... but you're probably getting close enough to it that it would be hard to permit this and not permit any other activity in that regards.

    So, the short of it is, let me reread the old chat/threads and see if I can chat with Aeson about this some ... we'll try to come up with something before the turn comes back to you.
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    • #17
      Erm, I got my snoopy and sn00py mixed up...

      doh!

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      • #18
        dp

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        • #19
          Rereading the chat and the poll, the kind of war you're describing was accepted by many (more than half) of the players, and only I think one person really had a significant problem with it.

          I'd still like to discuss it with Aeson, to make sure he reads it the way I do, but I suspect that we'll not object to it. Personally I don't think it's all that kosher, but I think it's probably within the rules we agreed on.

          However, if it becomes more than what you're describing here, it may be a problem; it was clearly agreed on that you can't agree to wars for training or city trading/clearing, and it's a bit muddier if you were to stay at war with vox but begin a peaceful alliance. IE, if you decide to war with them to avoid hinduism, that's probably going to be fine, but don't expect to gain the normal advantages of peaceful neighbor relations (like tech trading) while at war.
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          • #20
            The thought that is an exploit never crossed my mind.

            You can do this in SP.

            If you do this in SP so as to avoid religion spread from an AI you know you are likely going to go to war with, you would avoid the war unhappiness, and that might be a good idea.
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