Should we allow a "Team" Mercenary"

[Beta]

Uno - to fully pass judgement on the matter, I need an answer to a specific question - which I think you may have answered here.

If that translate into winning, we won't complain. It's just not our primary goal, Win uber alles

And my question is - if you are the last civ standing, do you win?

I am assuming that is the case, and if so, I have no problem with a mercenary team. You are playing by the same rules (and for the same objective), just approaching diplomacy in a different way, and being very upfront about how you are going to play it.

I trust people can see my logic here. My concern is that you would slip under the radar screens as no one figures you can win the game. Then - when you have managed to avoid all the major conflicts by simply renting out troops, and no one seeing you as a threat, you stroll in and take the game. Then other teams would squawk that they did not think you were playing to win, etc, etc. Sort of like the end game fiasco in PTWDG.

If the answer to the above question is 'no', then I am dead set against the idea.

[Beta]

Originally posted by Ennet
Not every nation or team can win the game, nor will at a given time to be able to do so. This is not a reason to stop playing the game. Vox and RP did not have any chance of winning after their respective defeat in the PTWDG but they didn't stop playing for that.

Ennet - I have to correct you on that. We were in fact, lying low for a reason. Our initial goal after our near-death experience was to support Lego. In fact, in retrospect, we should've waded into the war. It seems that it was close enough that the small Voxian Navy may have been able to influence things. But Lego and us agreed that we should sit on the sidelines, as they did not want Vox to be used as the landing area to attack Lego. (ie they did not want to have to defend both countries.)

Once Lego went under, and GS was destroyed, I for one, was still hopefull. If GoW and NeuD duked (or nuked) it out - we may have had a chance - and a good one. Now - the stock answer to that is that if GS could not stand up to their combined firepower - how could we ever expect to. Of course we couldn't. And my answer to that is if they were not playing to a shared victory, then the attack on GS, or even on Vox, may have provided an opportunity for either NeuD or GoW to take advantage of the situation and attack the other - thus opening up other possibilities. And that is why shared victories suck, and why the end of that game, for may was such a disappointment.

And your analogy of Sweden doesn't quite cut it - RL and civ ARE different.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Originally posted by Beta
And my question is - if you are the last civ standing, do you win?

So long as conquest is chosen as an option, I believe that to be the mechanics in Civ, yes.

[Beta]

Ok - then in essense, Team Mercenary is also playing to win the game. Correct?

[UnOrthOdOx]

No.

Team Mercenary is playing to have fun.

We do plan to be standing at the end of the game counting our enormous wealth, though, yes.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Can we get some kind of resolution on this issue, please?

I have a number of folks who have indicated they might be interested if we are actually allowed to be in the game.

[Arrian]

Last I saw, Gathering Storm was ok with the Mercs. A good number voted yes, and most others abstained. I don't think it was even close.

-Arrian

[GeoModder]

Centaurians already gave a YEA.

[Jon Miller]

it depends on what victory conditions are allowed, for my vote

JM

[Dis]

So what's the whole deal with this team mercenary? I came kind of late, so I'm still trying to catch up. What's so different about them?

[Beta]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
No.

Team Mercenary is playing to have fun.

We do plan to be standing at the end of the game counting our enormous wealth, though, yes.

In which case, as we have all agreed, if you are the LAST team standing, you win the game.

So, you don't plan on playing to win, but you do plan on being the standing at the end of the game. Hmmm...

Works for me.

[Enigma_Nova]

I can't speak for GS, but I give this a thumbs up
The way they play is fine by me.

[snoopy369]

UnO, I'd say that enough teams have voted OK for you to consider yourself 'in', unless you *require* a unanimous vote, in which case you'll have to convince Jon Miller.

[binTravkin]

Why bother, just let them be in for a change.

There could be issue though with characteristics of the civ they get.
Agressive (for best troops) could be a requirement.
Why buy low level troops if I can make better ones on my own.

Was the civ distribution question solved them (1 preference, 2 preferences, 3 preferences, completely random pick)?

[conmcb25]

Sarantium votes for Team Merc.

I finally counted the votes in our team forum