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**RobWorham** · August 11, 2006, 01:05

Aye Aye Captain

**FeMme** · August 11, 2006, 02:17

[Edit: Just enough time to get home and grab a cold beer from the fridge!!

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**fed1943** · August 11, 2006, 04:05

I will be there.

Best regards,

**ChrisiusMaximus** · August 11, 2006, 05:01

if i wake up ill be there

**MMC** · August 11, 2006, 13:18

Originally posted by FeMme
Just enough time to get home and grab a cold beer from the fridge!!

Or enough time to buy a beer, stick a lit rag in the top and throw it at a neighbour's cat

.

And I'd have to give the same answer as Chris. Although if we could push the time back an hour it might make it easier for some people. So GMT 0700 might be better.

**zeace** · August 11, 2006, 14:13

My vote is to not make it any later... I'll already be up way past my bedtime

**Zoid** · August 11, 2006, 15:01

Chris and MMC you´ll have to set the alarm. I know I will. I already ahve 5 beerrs under the belt and more in o n the way

**Zoid** · August 12, 2006, 02:51

1310 AD save

**Zoid** · August 12, 2006, 03:24

Save 1316 AD

**Zoid** · August 12, 2006, 04:39

30 minute coffee/dinner break called!

Current save:

**Zoid** · August 12, 2006, 05:07

Chat log

pre-chat banter

(Rob-Eager-as-MOD) Hi Zoid
(FeMme) hi zoid
(Zoid) Good morning

(FeMme) i made it on time and the prez is late!

(Rob-Eager-as-MOD) You got us worried there
(Zoid) Beer makes you tired

(FeMme) got bloody slamed at work today, glad i made it out in one peice
(FeMme) *piece
* fed1943 has joined #C4DG
(FeMme) hi fed
(FeMme) a question zoid
(fed1943) hi FeMme
(Zoid) Femme, sounds nasty

(Zoid) hi, fed
(FeMme) what is the plan for tonight
(fed1943) hi everybody
(FeMme) it was!
(Zoid) The ppla is to play a loong session and hopefully get this war thingie over and done with
(Rob-Eager-as-MOD) hi fed
(Zoid) *plan
(fed1943) hi
(Zoid) danm typos

(Rob-Eager-as-MOD) any breaks scheduled??
(Rob-Eager-as-MOD) (dinner)

(Zoid) Yep, just call them when you feel the need

(Rob-Eager-as-MOD) I reckon on 4 turns until war
(Rob-Eager-as-MOD) then 3 turns to move into position
(Rob-Eager-as-MOD) then 2 turns of bombardment
(Rob-Eager-as-MOD) then the final attacks
(Zoid) Souns good. Gonna check the forum for new posts.
(Zoid) *sounds
(Zoid) brb
(Rob-Eager-as-MOD) Good time for breaks would be after 4 turns or 7 turns or 10 turns
(Rob-Eager-as-MOD) 'IF' all goes well

* Zoid is now known as Zoid_brb
* Rob-Eager-as-MOD is now known as RobWorham
* Zoid_brb is now known as Zoid
(Zoid) Re: the breaks I think either 7 or 10 turns sound good. 4 is a bit to soon IMO

(RobWorham) OK, but will you want to stop as we overlook Fred's cities??

(RobWorham) Depends on how quickly we can bang out the turns

(Zoid) How many turns do you estimate it will take to subdue the evil germans?
(Zoid)

(RobWorham) All over in 10 (I hope)
(FeMme) Just noticed MMC's name!
(FeMme) someone should wake up MMC, he might have an accident!
(RobWorham) If not then we may be up the creek without a paddle
(RobWorham)

(Zoid) Indeed

(RobWorham) We should get machinery as we go to war
(RobWorham) (Crossbowman)
(Zoid) machinery is good!
(fed1943) windmills and watermills
(RobWorham) and hopefully Optics around the time of the finish of war!!!
(Zoid) how many turns to machinery?
(Zoid) checking the game...
(RobWorham) then straight on to peace and exploration
(RobWorham) 4
(Zoid) great!
(RobWorham) indeed, all seems to be looking good for Concordia
(Zoid)

(Zoid) I propose we wait another 10 minutes before we start.
(RobWorham) OK
(RobWorham) All OK with you Fed, my PM requests??
(fed1943) yes, Rob.may be Ap.more 1 corssbow to FeMme Fatale
(RobWorham) No, Paddy will be going there
(fed1943) good
(RobWorham) I have been studying game this afternoon
(Zoid) Optics in 10 turns after the Machinery! We might make a few caravels before it´s time to end this chat

(fed1943) a few?one or two not enough?
(RobWorham) So we aiming to end chat at end of war or after our first Caravel??
(Zoid) We need a mighty armada of caravels!
(Zoid) Rob, we´ll see

(RobWorham) OK but we may start to flag late into the evening

(Zoid) If the war goes as planned we might have time to explore as well!
(RobWorham) 110 hours without a day off

(FeMme) been a long week
(Zoid) Ouch!
(RobWorham) indeed
(Zoid) I hope you extra money for working that much!
(RobWorham) But of course
(Zoid) Overtime pay or what you call it.

**Zoid** · August 12, 2006, 05:08

(RobWorham) I'm not a charity worker

(Zoid)

(RobWorham) All into the house fund
(RobWorham) Shall we??
(Zoid) Indeed!
(RobWorham) Yesssssss!!!
(FeMme) bring it on
(Zoid) 4 All present and have the save open?
(FeMme) y
(fed1943) yes
(RobWorham) Here's to eternal peace (soon)

(RobWorham) y

Turn Chat

(Zoid) 4 1304 AD AOB?
(FeMme) y
(fed1943) yes
(FeMme) no
(RobWorham) n
(FeMme)

(RobWorham) good start femme
(Zoid)

(Zoid)

(Zoid) 4 End turn

(Zoid) 4 CAF
(RobWorham) 12TF South (10 units) moves 2
(RobWorham) 12Blasty (W of Hamburg) 6 - sleep
* Ze_Ace has joined #C4DG
(fed1943) hi
(Ze_Ace) hi all
(FeMme) hi
(RobWorham) 12Mad Max (E of Rubygrad) 9
(Zoid) Good morning zeace
(FeMme) you mde it in time!
(RobWorham) hi zeace
(Ze_Ace) It's very late at night here...

(FeMme) we've only just begun
(FeMme)

(Ze_Ace) Ok, give me a save at the end of the turn
(Zoid) will do!
(RobWorham) Grab the save from forum Zeace and i'll relay moves to you asap
(RobWorham) oh ok don't then

(FeMme) hehe
(RobWorham) 12Axel and Slee ONLY (in Hamburg) move 2-2
(RobWorham) 12Slim Jim (SW of Cologne) sleep
(RobWorham) 12CAF end for now
(Zoid) Good start!

(Zoid) 4 MoI
(fed1943) 12smeg sissi henry 8887
(fed1943) 12crabby erika markus road
(fed1943) 12rachel margareth 3 road
(fed1943) 12frank road
(fed1943) 12ming heimlich 6
(fed1943) 12Povo Este WF: from 3 to 9
(fed1943) 12Femme Fatale WF: artist to 9
(FeMme)

I was looking forward to some entertainment!
(FeMme)

(fed1943) 12M O I End
(Zoid) Thanks fed
(Zoid) 4 AOB?
(fed1943) no
(Ze_Ace) n
(RobWorham) n
(FeMme) n
(Zoid) 4 Turn saved
(Zoid) Posting save now
(RobWorham) 20 min turn !!!!
(FeMme) wow!
(RobWorham) We could get to space this evening at this rate

(FeMme) lol
(Zoid)

(Zoid) Save posted http://www.apolyton.net/forums/attac...postid=4548727
(Zoid) let us know when ypu´re ready zeace
(Ze_Ace) ok, I'm laoding it
(Zoid) *you´re
(RobWorham) you hung over zoid??
(Zoid) slightly
(Zoid)

(RobWorham)

(Zoid) I hate office partys
(RobWorham) NO mistakes will be tolerated by MOD, unless they are made by MOD!!!
(Ze_Ace) ok ready to go...
(RobWorham) Oh yes congratulations!!!
(Zoid) 4 1310 AD End turn

(Zoid) Border expansion at Chuckfort

(RobWorham)

(Zoid) 4 CAF
(RobWorham) OK
(RobWorham) 12Mad Max sleep
(RobWorham) 12TF South fortify
(RobWorham) 12Axel and Slee move 2-3
(RobWorham) 12Jack Lives Here (SE of Chuckfort) 1 - fortify
(RobWorham) hmmmmmmm
(FeMme) well hello swordie
(FeMme) we see you!
(RobWorham) 12Paddy the Scott (S of Chuckfort) 1-4
(RobWorham) 12CAF End (for now)
(Zoid) Thanks rob
(Zoid) 4 MoI
(fed1943) 12ming road
(fed1943) 12heimlich chop forest
(fed1943) 12sucker 4 remove jungle
(fed1943) 12smeg sissi henry chop forest
(fed1943) 12crabby erika markus 366 chop forest
(fed1943) 12rachel 36 chop forest
(RobWorham) I have Margareth free??
(RobWorham) again

(FeMme) me too
(Zoid) yeah
(Zoid) same here
(Zoid) go with margareth fed?
(FeMme) are you using zoid's saved game fed?
(FeMme) from the forum?
(fed1943) 12Povo Este WF: scientist to 96
(Zoid) I moved crabby et al the wrong way anyway. Sort it out and I´ll replay the turn
(Zoid) After fed´s done
(RobWorham) ok
(fed1943) 12M O I End
(Zoid) Thanks fed.
(Zoid) A short break while I replay the turn!
(Zoid) 4 5 minutes
(RobWorham) ok
(Ze_Ace) So while Zoid is playing his turn, I noticed we could bump our science rate 20% and finish Mach this turn instead of next.
(FeMme) sounds good
(Ze_Ace) We can rebuild the money later if we need it, but I think a 20% boost would be good for the next turn (at least)
(FeMme) it would be good to get this before we cancel Ceace Fire
(Ze_Ace) yeah
(FeMme) so I can try to extort Optics
(FeMme) well, i just checked
(FeMme) and it doesn;t make a difference because we can't cancel CF for 2 more turns anyway
(Zoid) Ok, I´m done
(FeMme) so no need to lose 54 gold
(FeMme) IMO
(Zoid) fed, do you mind loading my save at the end of this turn so we are at the same page so to speak

(fed1943) now or the next turn?
(Zoid) end of this turn is good
(fed1943) good
(Zoid) 4 AOB?
(fed1943) no
(RobWorham) y
(FeMme) n
(Zoid) Rob?
(RobWorham) are we changing tech rate Zeace??
(RobWorham) in blue if we are
(RobWorham) please

(Ze_Ace) Well, what do people think? I think we can afford 52 gold, and we can always build it back later?
(Zoid) I say go for it!
(fed1943) yes
(Ze_Ace) 12Raise science rate to 60%
(RobWorham) and can we rename Haburg please??

(Zoid) Yes!
(Zoid) Suggestions?
(RobWorham) Yipee
(RobWorham) Bananaburg
(Zoid) 4 rename Hamburg ) Bananaburg
(RobWorham) Hurrah!!!
(FeMme) that'll keep the spammers happy

(RobWorham) +1's all round!!!
(Ze_Ace) The spammers will never be happy

(Zoid)

(RobWorham) Well, happier then

(Zoid) 4 turn saved
(RobWorham)

(Zoid) Posting save
(fed1943) I go to rhe save now
(RobWorham) 2 turns in one hour !!!
(RobWorham) Still not bad for us!!

**Zoid** · August 12, 2006, 05:08

(Zoid) Save posted http://www.apolyton.net/forums/attac...postid=4548744
(Zoid) Let us know when you´re done fed

(Zoid) Rob, indeed

(Zoid) With this pace we´ll get at least 6 more turns played AND have time for a dinner break

(RobWorham) Swoon!!!
(Zoid) Spoon!
(fed1943) 1316 AD loaded thanks
(Zoid) Excellent!
(FeMme) don't worry we're snacking on Spanish Terrine and Country Bread!
(Zoid) 4 End turn

(Zoid) Woot! A new era!!
(RobWorham) New music!!
(Zoid) Sillier hats!
(Zoid) 4 Research?
(RobWorham) Hmmmmm
(RobWorham)

(Zoid) Optics, was it?
(RobWorham) Why not
(Ze_Ace) Yep...
(Ze_Ace) 12Optics
(RobWorham) Go Zeace

(Ze_Ace) We
(RobWorham) Most youve done in a session!!
(Ze_Ace) We'll have nice new boats soon

(RobWorham) Alright!!
(Zoid) 4 CAF
(Ze_Ace) It hasn't been the most interesting of MOF duties

(Zoid)

(RobWorham)

(RobWorham) Next term will be better

(RobWorham) 12Paddy the Scot fortify
(RobWorham) 12Axel and Slee 3 fortify
(RobWorham) 12Colt 3-3 sentry
(RobWorham) 12End CAF
(RobWorham) Next turn we go!!!!
(Zoid) Excellent!
(RobWorham) Look at all those young workers, ready for picking!!
(Zoid) Maybe a coffe/dinner break before we go?
(RobWorham) We're good here to continue
(RobWorham) Up to you guys
(Zoid) OK!
(Zoid) MoI
(Ze_Ace) I'm probably heading to bed soon...
(Zoid) 4 MoI
(Zoid) ok, zeace
(FeMme) oh
(RobWorham) You miss the war

(FeMme) you've done admirably!
(fed1943) 12margareth farm
(fed1943) 12rachel 36 farm
(RobWorham) Can you confirm location of Margareth please
(fed1943) margareth,smeg,sissi,rachel and henry are 7 from Rubygrad
(RobWorham) OK
(FeMme) good
(RobWorham) FeMme still had forest at 7 until one moment ago, but now it has cleared?? Weird
(RobWorham) All is OK now
(RobWorham) tx
(fed1943) 12kevin 963 workshop
(fed1943) 12ming heimlich frank farm
(fed1943) 12cinderella camp
(fed1943) 12MTT WF: artist to 4
(fed1943) 12Rubygrad WF: 7 to 74
(fed1943) 12chuckfort WF: 3 to 32
(fed1943) 12a warning: Valley needs 13 T to forge optics just 6 T. Change slider?
(fed1943) 12M O I End
(RobWorham) What about a chop at the Valley??
(FeMme) don't forget Markus and Erika
(RobWorham) Forest Chop, not jungle

Caravel/MoI discussion

(Ze_Ace) Are we going to rush a caravel at the valley when we get optics?
(fed1943) right,tx markus and erika have moves
(RobWorham) Forest chop??
(RobWorham) for The valley??
(fed1943) 12erika markus farm
(FeMme) they could have chopped a forest for the Valley!
(Zoid) a chop would´ve been nice...
(Zoid) but done is done...
(fed1943) planed a chop 78 Valley but the workers are few...
(RobWorham) ok
(FeMme) maybe they will still have time after the farm is built
(fed1943) they shall but that delays Chuckfort (our secong powerhouse)
(Zoid) fed, what do say about the rushing of caravel as zeace asked above?
(fed1943) poprush? Valley is not food rich...
(Zoid) true
(Ze_Ace) Well, we could make it in P.E. Instead?
(RobWorham) chop rush??
(FeMme) we need caravels as soon as possible surely
(Ze_Ace) Lots of food there...
(RobWorham) then a long time to get round to purple and blue
(Zoid) yeah
(FeMme) Povo Este is far away
(Ze_Ace) P.E. isn't toooo far away
(FeMme) it's 6 turns
(FeMme) 6 moves away
(fed1943) what?in PE?did you read in the forum all posted about PE?
(Ze_Ace) The Valley is 2 turns, so 4 difference
(FeMme) yes
(Zoid) better with The Valley
(Ze_Ace) I think so
(FeMme) sorry 4 moves away
(Ze_Ace) So maybe save a forest and chop rush it later?
(FeMme) forgot they have 3 move points
(FeMme) they both need to build
(FeMme) the valley one can go south
(FeMme) Povo este can send one east
(Ze_Ace) We could do that too...
(Zoid) Good plan!
(Zoid) I think...
(Zoid)

(RobWorham) What about declare war on Fred then have 30 min break for dinner/coffee/tactics
(Zoid) OK, 4 AOB?
(fed1943) no
(FeMme) science rate?
(Ze_Ace) Should we put the science rate back?
(Zoid) Rob, good idea
(RobWorham) I think so re science
(FeMme) me too
(Ze_Ace) I'd like to get Optics real soon, but our treasury isn't huge...
(RobWorham) what is the math??
(FeMme) although 6 turns for optics is very enticing
(Ze_Ace) Well, it's possible to run at 60% now, and drop to 20% for 6 turns to rebuild the treasury afterwards
(fed1943) each change takes 1 more turn to research;the first cuts loss in half the second small gain +3
(RobWorham) Fed, do you need time to give eta for Caravels in Valley and Povo Este??
(Ze_Ace) We don't want to start researching too much until we know what we can trade with the other continent
(Ze_Ace) I say get optics real quick, and then stall science to rebuild the treasury and figure out what we can't get from the others
(fed1943) caravels from Povo Este? Forgive but that would be a great mistake
(RobWorham) ???
(Ze_Ace) Let's just focus on one from the Valley
(fed1943) about treasure,wait
(FeMme) i like Zeace's idea but just as long as we can build caravels straight away
(FeMme) otherwise there is no point losing all that money
(RobWorham) Indeed, no point in rushing Optics if we are not ready to build Caravel
(Ze_Ace) agreed... so can we rush a caravel in 5 turns?
(fed1943) Povo Este still needs about 8/9 turns to begin with the spec.
(fed1943) ab out rush,wait please
* Chrisiusmaximus has joined #C4DG
(fed1943) Valley can stop grow and do forge in 11 turns (so shall save 3 turn total)
(FeMme) hi chris
(Chrisiusmaximus) morning good people
(RobWorham) If we forest chop to get a Caravel, then the forest is expended for 1 unit. If we forest chop the forge, then we reap the benefits for ever!!
(FeMme) you're awake!
(Chrisiusmaximus) yes so they tell me
(RobWorham) hi chris
(Chrisiusmaximus) hello Rob
(fed1943) or workers can return north (lose 1 turn in way)and chop forge (chop forge pays more than shop caravel)
(RobWorham) can we chop for Valley fed??
(FeMme) yes, get a forge quickly by forest chop then we can build caravels faster
(Zoid) Hey, Chris!
(Ze_Ace) What about a pop-rush in The Valley? I know it'll really hurt that city, but it's not a great city. For the greater good of the nation...

(fed1943) yes,tile 78 shall be watermill,the question is time
(Zoid) Finally awake, ey?
(Chrisiusmaximus) indeed

(Chrisiusmaximus) sadly cant stop wife has a list for me

(RobWorham) What about 2-1 or 2-2 for quick chop??
(FeMme) bummer!
(Zoid)

(RobWorham) ;(
(fed1943) sorry,Rob?
(Zoid) Wifes...

(Chrisiusmaximus) nono that is not on the list
(Zoid)

(FeMme) just change the list and put 1.Play civ

**Zoid** · August 12, 2006, 05:09

(RobWorham) Can we chop 2-1 or 2-2 of Valley for a quick boost for Valley
(Chrisiusmaximus)

(FeMme) lol
(RobWorham) charming

(fed1943) 21 shall be windmill,no problem;but not to much time gain as we lose 1H in the short time
(RobWorham) We NEED to be ready to build Caravel in 6, 7 or 8 turns!!!
(RobWorham) We also need an explorer by time Caravel is built
(RobWorham) Pleeeeeeeeeeeease

(FeMme) he's on his hands and knees

(fed1943) if I may ask:hurry for caravel,why? if just because you like say it and I'll do it.don't know how,but
(Zoid) Yeah, otherwise we´ve wasted a lot of money!
(FeMme) not a pretty sight!
(Chrisiusmaximus) explorer are good but you can use a charriot instead rob
(Ze_Ace) We need to trade techs with the other continent before we waste research duplicating what we can trade for.
(fed1943) no Zoid,no money was wated:watermills and windmills
(Ze_Ace) Also we need to know where we stand technologically in the world so we can start planning for it.
(Chrisiusmaximus) agreed
(Zoid) fed, we´re losing a lot of money to get to Optics fast. For this to pay off we need to build caravels asap
(Chrisiusmaximus) but explorers are not as urgent as caravels
(fed1943) I know trade tech,but monarchy costs 4 turns open feudalism,so
(Chrisiusmaximus) caravels are
(RobWorham) Knowledge is power, at the moment we are powerful rednecks with no idea about the outside world
(FeMme) if we first chop forest (either 2-1 or 2-2 of Valley) won;t that finish building forge and have left over for a caravel?
(Chrisiusmaximus) you will find most civs in coastal exploration
(FeMme) then you can build a windmill
(fed1943) well you just tell:you want it fast?
(RobWorham) I would like Forge in 6,7 or 8 turns (see Zeace for exact timing)
(RobWorham) Fed, can you tell us how quick we can get Forge??
(RobWorham) if we chop for valley
(Ze_Ace) We can adjust the timing if Valley can finish it's forge
(fed1943) if yes,I shall try two chops 78 and 21 to forge (some short term hurt,but not great)
(Ze_Ace) when is the forge ready then?
(Chrisiusmaximus) explorer would be a nice addition but only if its affordable, remember theres two civ already visible so as sooon as caravels come on line we get two contacts pretty fast
(fed1943) but do not ask a lot of imediate or soon troops from Chucktort
(fed1943) wait,Zeace
(Ze_Ace) I'm afraid I need to get going... But can we adjust the science rate to whatever gives us optics the turn the forge comes online?
(fed1943) hard to say:2 turns to free the workers then 1st chop,then1 turn walk and 2nd chop
(fed1943) more than 6 turns by sure
(Zoid) Ok, see you zeace.
(RobWorham) Cheers Zeace
(Ze_Ace) We can also fine tune the exact rate next turn-chat.
(FeMme) bye zeace
(Ze_Ace) Good night all... Good luck with the war

(Chrisiusmaximus) bye
(FeMme) and thanks for the great input
(RobWorham) Cheers
(fed1943) bye
(Zoid) good night and thanks

* Ze_Ace has quit IRC (Quit: )
(RobWorham) So shall we go back to 40% science
(fed1943) I think better
(Zoid) So is there a point to losing money to get to Optics two turns faster?
(RobWorham) Do you think forge may be done in 8 turns??
(Zoid) cross posting there

(FeMme)

(FeMme) The Valley will grow in 3 turns, this will help
(Zoid) 4 Sience slider to 40%? A: yes B: no
(fed1943) I shall try the forge,after next grow change pop
(FeMme) the new citizen can work 2-2 (the forested hill)
(fed1943) a
(RobWorham) a
(FeMme) a
(Zoid) 4 Sience slider to 40%

(Zoid) Right! 4 AOB?
(fed1943) no
(RobWorham) n
(FeMme) n
(Zoid) We declare war and then break?
(FeMme) yes
(RobWorham) Sounds good
(Zoid) ok
(Zoid) 4 Turn saved
(Zoid) 4 End turn
(Zoid) 4 Build queue?
(Chrisiusmaximus) how long are you breaking
(RobWorham) Hmmmmmmmm Barb Archer eh!!!
(Zoid) 30 mins
(FeMme) 30mins
(RobWorham) cool
(Chrisiusmaximus) when
(Zoid) nowish
(FeMme) i think a unit is in order for the build queue
(RobWorham) indeed
(Zoid) fed?
(Chrisiusmaximus) ok when you break could you put a save up

(Chrisiusmaximus) ill try to join after the break
(Zoid) cool
(Zoid) I´ll do that
(RobWorham) A 2 turn unit would be good

(Chrisiusmaximus) its 9.33 am on my clock so ill be here about 10.05 yes
(FeMme) i think horse archer
(RobWorham) indeed
(RobWorham) indeed again

(Zoid) yeah
(RobWorham) Fed??
(Zoid) Chris, sound about right
(FeMme) see you then chris
(RobWorham) OK see you in 30
(Zoid) see you
(Zoid) Ok, where the #¤%& is fed?
(Zoid)

(Zoid) I want my coffee!!
(FeMme) not sure but rob is currently tenderising some sirloin steak for dinner!
(FeMme) he's letting out some of his pent up aggression

(FeMme) shall we break here?
(Zoid)

(Zoid) yeah
(FeMme) seems a good idea to me
(Zoid) 4 Break for 30 mins!
(FeMme) cool

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